You Are Getting Fat!

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 7:56 pm on Wednesday, July 20, 2005

This week, I have been in very much of a “call ‘em as I sees ‘em” mode. An incredibly large number of things are rubbing me entirely the wrong way these days and I am feeling particularly disinclined to be nice and cuturally sensitive to people. This issue of being nice and putting up with rude and unnecessary comments here in Korea and the possible reasons for the rude and unnecessary comments came up in an MSN chat coversation with an American woman who has to deal with boorish behavior on a regular basis. I was going to write something about this, but I decided that the chat transcript spoke for itself. So, here it is:

Anon: hmmm….i just got called fat again

Anon: first time this week

Jeff: wow… what took so long?

Anon: i dunno! ??

Anon: i decided i don’t like it when people say that

Anon: but i’m not sure what i’m going to do about it

Jeff: Now, why wouldn’t you like that?

Jeff: Me, in my never to be culturally correct, capitalist, imperialist aggressor insensitivity, i usually make some equally offensive comment about them.

Jeff: “you’re fat too” “Oh, you are looking bald” “is that a zit?”

Anon: do you seriously or are you just saying that? not my shiljangnim but another shiljangnim just told me this.

Jeff: i do that.. it usually pisses them off…..go figure…

Anon: we walks by my desk and says, “i think you’re gaining weight.” and then leaves.

Anon: wth?

Jeff: and they really can’t figure out why you are being so mean to them….

Anon: really? ok then i guess i’ll try it

Jeff: it might get you fired….

Anon: oh then i guess i won’t.

Jeff: well.. who knows how they will react… you should try saying something a little less offensive.

Anon: but i don’t see how they can say that. my clothes still fit.

Anon: if i have gained weight i don’t see how it could have been that much

Jeff: you haven’t

Anon: my thighs don’t rub together

Anon: nothing is tight on me…things seem to fit the same as they always have

Anon: ???

Jeff: You look just as thin and lovely as ever.

Anon: i mean, i think i would know if i had gained weight. i gained a lot in [another country] and i knew i had at the time, but i wouldn’t say i have here

Anon: ???

Jeff: not that I have seen.. i was going to mention last time that you look like you actually lost some.

Anon: nice try jeff…in all honesty, i may have gained some weight BUT i KNOW i haven’t gained THAT much…but i do wonder why the sudden stream of comments these
days…

Jeff: no i’m serious.

Anon: me too

Anon: i’m serious too

Jeff: i was going to say that.

Anon: anyway i don’t get it. they just randomly come up and say it to me in front of everyone

Jeff: you should watch and see if it only happens when you wear certain clothes.

Jeff: because they are idiot, ass-clown Korean men.

Anon: yeah i don’t get them

Anon: do they say this to others who obviously are fat?

Jeff: yes.

Jeff oh oh oh oh yes.

Anon: i’m next to one chubby girl and across from another and they are obviously fat

Jeff: I hear that crap at least 2 or 3 times a day.

Anon: are you serious? it just goes around your office? i don’t get it! i really don’t!

Jeff: not around the office….they know better now….i’m talking about total strangers on the street or cashiers or waiters or gas station attendants.

Anon: are you serious?

Anon: but

Anon: WHY?

Jeff: because…….

Jeff: just… Because.

Jeff: we are not human. we couldn’t possibly have the same feelings and sensitivities as real people.

Anon: my friend was constantly told by her homestay that she was fat and she wasn’t!!!!

Anon: and then they wonder here in korea why she left

Jeff: Just think of everything like that that you say to a dog or a monkey and ask yourself why you say those things to a dumb animal…..then you will have your answer
as to why the koreans say that to you.

Anon: haha

Jeff: (is that way to cynical and nasty of me?)

Anon: no it sounds like the truth

Anon: anyway thanks for letting me vent. i’m over it already. until next time that is…

Jeff: Can I post the transcript on my blog?

Anon: if you wish

Jeff: OK

5 Comments »

Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 July 2005 @ 10:14 am

The person I was speaking with is not malnourished with ribs showing, scapula wings, and collar bones jutting out, but she is FAR from fat…actually quite thin and very healthy… I would never dare to hazard a guess a dress size and risk wrath, but I would assume that it is in the low single digits.

Comment by Nomad

21 July 2005 @ 12:21 pm

And we all know that there are no fat Koreans.

Comment by scott

22 July 2005 @ 11:40 pm

I’ve heard Koreans say much worse to foreigners, and then appear shocked when they realize what they said was insulting. I really think most of them are just speaking without thinking of how it comes across. When speaking a second language, your usual sociolinguistic skills don’t always transfer automatically (though most of them are probably jerks when speaking their mother tongue as well).

Comment by snicker-snack

12 August 2005 @ 3:32 pm

I really think most of them are just speaking without thinking of how it comes across. When speaking a second language, your usual sociolinguistic skills don’t always transfer automatically

I would tend to agree yet… here in Japan it would be hard to imagine comments of this sort. People are always so focused on what the reaction of others might be (except I suppose in the case of politicians talking about territorial disputes with Korea)

Comment by biff

8 October 2005 @ 3:03 am

Korean people call each other fat all the time, too. They like stating the obvious, like, “Hey you’re really tall/short/ugly/beautiful/handsome/skinny..etc.”

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