Words Mean Things

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 5:48 pm on Tuesday, June 28, 2005

This is a letter to the editor in today’s Korea Times. I found the letter to be quite straightforward and powerful in it’s message:

Freedom of South Koreans

Dear Editor,

I do not know if newspapers in South Korea publish letters to the editor as the U.S. papers do. But I felt the need to write this letter.

Last week, the start of the Korean War was remembered. At the time I was 18 years old, and I enlisted even though I did not know where Korea was.

I was sent to Korea and I served with the 7th Infantry Division. We were to serve for nine months and 36 points. When I finally rotated home, I was in Korea over 13 months and I had 52 points, but I was one of the lucky ones, I made it home.

I have always tried to feel I did some good in helping South Korea and its people. I wore my 7th Division cap with Korean ribbons on it in civilian life, but no more!

Like many Korean War veterans, I too have tired of the TV reports showing mobs of people in various Korean cities shouting “Americans, Go Home!”

When I think of the sacrifice we made and the number of people we lost in trying to protect the freedom of the South Korean people, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and to have the South Korean people throw our sacrifices in our face is too much to take.

If I had my way, I would bring home every one of our enlisted men and women.

Then South Korea could fend for themselves, and pray North Korea would allow you to live in peace.

Walter E. Gunther, Las Vegas

In the past, I have explained this type of thing as a cultural misunderstandings and tried to explain that they don’t REALLY mean “Yankee, Go Home” or “We Hate America,”. I think Michael Breen explained this phenomenon quite well in the November-December 2004 issue of the Invest Korea Journal (full text available here) when he wrote:

What, for example, do anti-American protestors want? The common assumption is that protestors want the United States to withdraw its troops but two years ago, when American commentators started suggesting that the troops be withdrawn if they were not wanted, protestors took to the streets to complain that Americans did not understand Korean anti-Americanism.

“We don’t want you to leave; rather, we want you to change your attitude,” they said.

While I still believe this to be true, letters like those written by Mr. Gunther remind me that to Americans, who do not understand the Korean way of doing things, words mean things. Americans hear the words and take them at their face value. We don’t do a lot of processing words through the filters of other cultures. Although there needs to be greater education and less focus on the minor events in the Western press, the Korean side must also understand that a poor choice of words or misguided actions can end up doing much more harm than good.

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Comment by Drambuie_man

29 June 2005 @ 2:17 am

Actualy I cannot disagree more. Two things to note:

1. What bothers me about the anti-Americanism in Korea is not the demo’s, but all the small stuff that only reinforces the demo’s. Note a year ago when the Korean govrenment decided to ham-handedly block the Iraqi beheading video of a Korean, because it was too violent. Yet this same govrenment did not care about videos of Americans carved up into McIslam Burgers.

2. Both Breen and you are spiting into the wind as you try to potray Korea as “stable” to outsiders. Even if you can convince a handful of titans of industry that daily demostrations accompanied periodcialy with things like flag buring, blood letting for ink, and self-imolation are perfectly normal things, the fact that all their suppliers, customers, and investors see this on CNN will only make these wonder about their CEO’s sanity when he says “Lets build in Mokpo!”

Comment by Drambuie_man

29 June 2005 @ 2:27 am

I forgot to add something else. Why the hell are forginers expected to bow to Korea’s sense of civil disobedince? Again, if I were a business leader and debating an investment in Asia, the demonstrations would be a good argumetn against Korea, no matter how many experts sit back and say “Trust us, children depicting extreme xenophobia and wanton violence toward forgieners on tiles at a bus stop is healthy expression!”

If Korea wants to truly play the game, they need to confront these issues. You know it is funny, at tragic, to me to see the govrenment concerned about being a welcoming “Hub” for the world, yet not only sees excess, but finds it a just dandy idea to display it with reltive honor in public.

Comment by anonymous

29 June 2005 @ 2:05 pm

The wave of anti-Americanism is reaching its new heights. In Incheon, liberated during the Korean War by the historic U.S.-led counterattack operation, “civil groups” have designated a statue of Douglas McArthur as a symbol of imperialism and are attempting to remove it. Just look at how disturbingly forgetful these Koreans are…

Comment by Sperwer

29 June 2005 @ 2:11 pm

I don’t think Breen “explained” anything. He simply purported to report the attitude underlying [some] anti-Americanism in Korea - an attitude that he appears to go on to say “isn’t clear”.

I think there is a grain of truth in Breen’s characterization of some Korean anti-Americanism, but two caveats are in order.

1. It’s only true of some anti-Americanism; there are plenty of anti-Americanisms abroad in Korea, and some of them are as ugly as they come, including the not-so-well-concealed attitudes of the DLP and, at the other end of the spectrum, the very hypocritical attitude of a significant portion of the Korean politico-bureaucratic-business elite, who pay lip service to the alliance in order to shift a very substantial portion of the burden for Korea’s security- in blood, treasure and especially “soft power” capital - to the US while relying on their more outspoken countrymen to provide the rationale for conniving at keeping Korea a relatively closed playing field economically (for both US and any other would-be foreign participants).

2. [maybe later]

Comment by Silly Sally

29 June 2005 @ 3:51 pm

In Korea you’ll generally find nihilism, pragmatism, materialism, mimicry, narcissism, deception, pretense, opportunism, parasitism, haughty conceit and decadence all in abundance. You will find no honor in Korea.

This type of society, despite its relatively prosperous veneer, is a Potemkin village. It cannot sustain itself. It has sucked the blood of dead American soldiers to kick-start its way to prosperity. Its Korean youth live off the hard work and wealth of previous generations, American subsidy, and an overvalued currency. It borrows money from the future for consumption in the present. Its ethos will pass through one of two possible outcomes: radical change through revolution or a collapse to a lower level of complexity.

Jeff, why do you still infer a cultural misunderstanding exists?

Comment by Silly Sally

29 June 2005 @ 4:17 pm

One more thing, if you closely examine Korean behavior, you will identify attention seeking and resource transfer as recurring themes.

What part of “Yankee go home … but keep the subsidies coming” don’t you understand? Korea is a large parasite that wants “equality” with America.

Comment by pat spacek

29 June 2005 @ 7:06 pm

Hmmm…while I have sympathy with the letter-writer on a *personal* level, I do have some problems with a lot of Americans’ belief that America’s foreign wars are purely altruistic ventures. America helped keep Korea free because it was in America’s tactical interest to do so. If North Korea had been a more useful ally against China and/or Russia, then there would be a statue of McArthur in Pyoungyang.

Also, if Koreans should be ‘grateful’ to America for helping them, then, by that token, people in Chile should be rabid anti-Americans. If it’s good for the goose…

Comment by Silly Sally

29 June 2005 @ 7:37 pm

Pat,

It’s the parasitism that is the out-rage.

The Korean government condones the Korean-populace’s abuse against America, yet sycophantically curries American subsidy.

This cunning duplicity doesn’t fly — with some of us Yankees.

The Korean government should tell America to pack up and leave — then I can respect Korea.

Comment by Jeff in Korea

29 June 2005 @ 10:13 pm

I understand and agree with you,Pat, to a certain extent. However, I fully agree with Silly. A few years ago, there was one of the ubiquitous propaganda signs hung from a pedestrian overpass here in Pusan. It was on the tail end of the finiancial crises (a.k.a. “IMF Crisis”). The sign, in Korean, read, “Be kind to foreigners so they will want to spend more money”.

Comment by pat spacek

30 June 2005 @ 6:51 am

Yeah, well, nobody’s disputing the fact that Koreans have an ambivalent attitude towards foreigners, and that America is a lghtning rod towards that. Of course, “Be kind to foreigners so they will want to spend more money” is a lot better than “Damn those foreigners who steal our women!” or even “Dokdo is ours no matter what those damn foreigners say!” but I do see your point. This is not a culture that deals with outsiders in a pleasant or self-confident way.

Comment by Shingles

30 June 2005 @ 1:48 pm

Jeff when will you wake up and smell the coffee. Your Corean buddies hate your fucking stinking guts. Gyopo/corean people HATE Americans and really hate any American in their homeland. Dumbasses like you walk around and think that they will be accepted if they speak the language and act silly.

Comment by Allan

1 July 2005 @ 8:27 pm

No they don’t! Koreans don’t hate Americans. Koreans hate being 2nd in anything. Koreans hate people cheating and taking short-cuts (except for themselves). Koreans hate that Americans (and the rest of the world!!!!)act so much better than the Korean/Klingon empire; but Koreans may chant “Yankee go home” but the next day try to get a student visa. I just came back from Okinawa and OMG! what a difference. Be that as it may–When Koreans are doing their hate thing remember that goofy, silly thing your mother told you when you point one finger at me you’re pointing three fingers at yourselve. That’s the Korean mind-think. Make sense?

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Comment by usinkorea

3 July 2005 @ 10:57 am

After teaching Korean adults for years, I came up with this montra –

The vast majority of South Korean below the age of 65 see USFK and to a slightly lesser extent the US-SK relationship as a cancer on their society - a cancer they just can’t afford to cut out — yet.

The average Korean adult shares most of the same thoughts about USFK and the US in Korea as the protesters — whether about the Kwangju Massacre, Cheju Massacre, the assassination of Park Chung Hee, US trying to “colonize” Korea, and so on.

Comment by nedski

6 July 2005 @ 11:09 am

the lead op-ed in the “asian WSJ” on july 1 addresses some of these issues….

http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB112017655886374840,00.html?mod=opinion&ojcontent=otep

Comment by Dr. J

12 July 2005 @ 3:48 am

Silly Sally

Your saying that “Korea is a large parasite that wants “equality” with America.” and that Korea is abusing the US for the subsidy. I think you are forgetting many things about US!! When US is mentioning “free trade” in north america and at the same time, taxing our soft wood from Canada!!! You see, when US does that to other country is ok but if other countries do that to US is Injustice… I sense some irony here!!

Comment by Dr. J

12 July 2005 @ 3:51 am

And also… I think US is the really parasite for the whole world!! They say that they want to impliment democracy in the world but what their real intention is to boost their dominance over the world!! Think of the Cuba, Iraq!!

Comment by eric

16 July 2005 @ 11:44 am

And what about “Cuba, Iraq!!”???
Cuba would wipe out America, if only it had the know-how, which it did with Russian help during JFK’s time. Iraq killed via torture more civilians of their own than the latest war ever did. And it was a breeding ground for terrorist. It’s fair-go really, two countries for two towers. Remember, if you’re an athlete or footballer returning without a medal, your legs would be broken by Saddam’s son who happens to be head their Olympic committee.
Coming back to Korea, I’m Asian and lives in Asia and I can tell you the Koreans really, really hate the Americans, no ifs or buts. What really ties their panties in a knot is that they can’t survive without American military help and economic subsidies. Their dependence on the Americans really irks them. They want the Americans out of Korea and they also want the Americans to stay put for their own good. This dichotomy is burning them up. My advice to the Americans: get out while you can. Nobody is grateful for anything you do in Korea.

Comment by Brad Spit

19 July 2005 @ 9:26 am

“What really ties their panties in a knot is that they can’t survive without American military help and economic subsidies. Their dependence on the Americans really irks them. They want the Americans out of Korea and they also want the Americans to stay put for their own good. This dichotomy is burning them up.” That’s totally true. But if it wasn’t for Kim jong-ill the U.S. wouldn’t give a rat’s ass about Korea and it would be part of China now, so maybe that explains why South Koreans love the midget dictator so much.

Comment by Silly Sally

19 July 2005 @ 4:09 pm

The American policy resulting in military protection for Korea was intended to create and nurture to life another democracy — to hold off the communist virus in Asia.

Unfortunately South Korea has a bad case of the communist flue and is getting sicker by the day.

Actually, Koreans are by nature — communists at heart.

Comment by David

20 July 2005 @ 11:32 am

As a Korean-American born and raised in Chicago, I am troubled by the anti-Americanism that I see in Korea. The United States of America is the best country in the world and is truly the land of opportunity. When the U.S. played Korea in the World Cup, I rooted for the good ole’ US of A.

The way I can explain anti-Americanism in Korea is that Koreans are afraid and jealous of what they don’t have and don’t understand. It’s very hypocritcal that Koreans potest and say “Yankee go home!” when they would give their left arm to study at a top university in the U.S. If I speak English in a public place, occasionally an angry Korean ahjjuhssi will scold me for not speaking Korean. Why? Because he can’t understand English and is intimidated by it! I just tell him that he’s ignorant and I’ll speak English as I please.

Comment by hmmm

20 July 2005 @ 11:35 am

Funny, I watched a hilarious new video yesterday, produced by the ROK Government and currently being shown now to all new recruits in the ROK Army. It is about 15 minutes long and goes point by point, into why the Korean people should stop being so rabidly anti-American. It lists body counts from the Korean War, talks about our glorious “alliance, forged in blood”, and moves forward through the reconstruction and democratization of Korea with US aid and protection. It explains that far from hating America, Koreans should be grateful. Then, the stunner…the final conclusion of this video, the grand message that all are supposed to take away with them is:

“Remember, without USFK protection Koreans would have to pay a much higher tax burden than we currently do, and we not be able to compete economically on the world stage.”

Funny, when I first got orders to come to Korea many years ago, my grandfather, a Korean War vet who harbored no illusions of being part of a blood-forged alliance with the Korean people, told me only half-jokingly that the fastest way to become a milionaire in Korea is to sell American flags. The rate at which they are burnt up on Saturday afternoons means that there is always a market for more.

If only I had heeded his advice, I wouldn’t still be here all these years later.

Sigh.

Comment by Silly Sally

26 July 2005 @ 4:15 pm

One of the richest men in Korea is the owner of a company called: Easy-Light American Flags.

He sells American flags that are chemically constitued to readily combust from a cigarette lighter.

He is now selling franchises.

Comment by Allison

10 August 2005 @ 12:47 pm

Hehehe – I know I’m a late comer to this conversation but personally I thought the ‘be nice to foreigners’ sign in Busan was hysterical and it reminded me of home.

I used to run a tourist destination in a small town on the Ontario/Michigan border. That community had a long and positive history with its American visitors and yet every business in town had the same small note taped to its cash register: “Don’t talk down to the Americans: they’re not all stupid and their money is always worth more!”

Comment by someone

1 November 2005 @ 5:40 am

I do believe that white supremacy is an evil onto itself. As long as white supremacy exists in the United States, there will be continued race relation problems. I do believe it has a satanic origin. For example, why would the KKK desecrate the holy cross by burning it? Why would they kill African American christians as they did for many years? As long as that history remains, white supremacy will be mocked and condemned. I hope you have no inkling of the rise of White supremacy because I and many others will certainly be there to crush it.

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