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	<title>Comments on: Deserter Charles R. Jenkins Sent to Prison</title>
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		<title>By: My Royal Highness</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1576</link>
		<author>My Royal Highness</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2004 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy smackdowns, Batman.  Someone really has gone off and killed all the lawyers.

Oh, Jeff, we hardly knew ye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy smackdowns, Batman.  Someone really has gone off and killed all the lawyers.</p>
<p>Oh, Jeff, we hardly knew ye.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Jong-il</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1575</link>
		<author>Kim Jong-il</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2004 19:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry, we have him in a safe place.</description>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1574</link>
		<author>Ari</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, you've gone all quiet and it's a little disturbing.  The DPRKers who might have slipped through the fence didn't get to you, did they?  Sorry, poor taste.  Still, where are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you&#8217;ve gone all quiet and it&#8217;s a little disturbing.  The DPRKers who might have slipped through the fence didn&#8217;t get to you, did they?  Sorry, poor taste.  Still, where are you?</p>
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		<title>By: BoringJeff</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1573</link>
		<author>BoringJeff</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey jeff, your blog sure is boring. Why dont you invite that silly sally back and make it more interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey jeff, your blog sure is boring. Why dont you invite that silly sally back and make it more interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Infidel</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1572</link>
		<author>Infidel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 22:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1572</guid>
		<description>I appreciate the facts highlighted, but i did the Tokyo connection. I also mentioned the fact, that Jenkins ran all over Asia looking for a safe place, suddenly becoming ill enough to go to hospital only in Japan. 

Yes, Paul H., that makes me angry, as if I needed another reason to feel that way. I'm glad the US Army did do something right and saved the taxpayer some money by holding this trial. The names and photos of all these traitors are lovingly hanged on the walls of inteliigence installation high-security boxes for generations to scorn, along with the endless briefings and new regs young soldiers will have to endure because of him. 

As for the information he might have, how much information do we need to know its bad there. He won't have the econometric data we need to know how much Pyongyang diverts for military purposes, he had no access to government or corps-level personnel and documents, and he saw very little. If not for the sentimental value he has for the Japanese public this man is worse than useless. His published accounts will only cause more debate about the best way to handle the problem, because he doesn't have the hard data we all need. The man is about as useful as a blurry satellite photo or a garbled radio message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the facts highlighted, but i did the Tokyo connection. I also mentioned the fact, that Jenkins ran all over Asia looking for a safe place, suddenly becoming ill enough to go to hospital only in Japan. </p>
<p>Yes, Paul H., that makes me angry, as if I needed another reason to feel that way. I&#8217;m glad the US Army did do something right and saved the taxpayer some money by holding this trial. The names and photos of all these traitors are lovingly hanged on the walls of inteliigence installation high-security boxes for generations to scorn, along with the endless briefings and new regs young soldiers will have to endure because of him. </p>
<p>As for the information he might have, how much information do we need to know its bad there. He won&#8217;t have the econometric data we need to know how much Pyongyang diverts for military purposes, he had no access to government or corps-level personnel and documents, and he saw very little. If not for the sentimental value he has for the Japanese public this man is worse than useless. His published accounts will only cause more debate about the best way to handle the problem, because he doesn&#8217;t have the hard data we all need. The man is about as useful as a blurry satellite photo or a garbled radio message.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul H.</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1571</link>
		<author>Paul H.</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1571</guid>
		<description>The previous point about Japan is absolutely correct.  The man's Japanese family and the intense interest in their situation in Japan were overwhelming political factors that made this case one with current international ramifications.  

You're also missing the point about the practicalities of confining a 65 year old man in extremely poor health.  Since the end of the Cold war there have been some other obscure desertion cases (at least one GI who had deserted to East Germany decades ago "came in from the cold" and was quietly plea bargained and released).  This one was essentially no different and would have been handled the same way even if there had been no Japanese family involved.  

A lengthy sentence would have to be served back in the US at the military confinement facility in Leavenworth.  The senior militar commanders and their JAG advisors want to keep the limited space there for younger prisoners who could be repeat offenders.  

Had Jenkins shot or injured an American or ROK soldier during his desertion I think he would have got hard time, but this didn't happen and he didn't have access to any secret information that significantly harmed US/ROK defenses in 1965.   

The 30 days can be done in whatever temporary confinement facility the US military maintains in Japan.

The important part of the punishment was to get an accurate confession as to his motives, convict him with a trial if he failed to plead guilty, and get an unfavorable discharge and forfeiture of pay.  Had this not happened, 40 years of back pay would have been a significant sum; it was legally necessary to convict him in order to have this forfeited as part of the punishment authorized under the UCMJ.

The Japanese are welcome to him. I'm sure the government there will find a way to support him and his family (who are innocent victims).  

I hope you guys who are outraged were also aghast at the fact that the FBI mole Hanson was able to keep his retirement pension as part of his plea bargain (so his wife and 4 (?) kids could be supported while he did a life sentence).  That's the sentence I find unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous point about Japan is absolutely correct.  The man&#8217;s Japanese family and the intense interest in their situation in Japan were overwhelming political factors that made this case one with current international ramifications.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re also missing the point about the practicalities of confining a 65 year old man in extremely poor health.  Since the end of the Cold war there have been some other obscure desertion cases (at least one GI who had deserted to East Germany decades ago &#8220;came in from the cold&#8221; and was quietly plea bargained and released).  This one was essentially no different and would have been handled the same way even if there had been no Japanese family involved.  </p>
<p>A lengthy sentence would have to be served back in the US at the military confinement facility in Leavenworth.  The senior militar commanders and their JAG advisors want to keep the limited space there for younger prisoners who could be repeat offenders.  </p>
<p>Had Jenkins shot or injured an American or ROK soldier during his desertion I think he would have got hard time, but this didn&#8217;t happen and he didn&#8217;t have access to any secret information that significantly harmed US/ROK defenses in 1965.   </p>
<p>The 30 days can be done in whatever temporary confinement facility the US military maintains in Japan.</p>
<p>The important part of the punishment was to get an accurate confession as to his motives, convict him with a trial if he failed to plead guilty, and get an unfavorable discharge and forfeiture of pay.  Had this not happened, 40 years of back pay would have been a significant sum; it was legally necessary to convict him in order to have this forfeited as part of the punishment authorized under the UCMJ.</p>
<p>The Japanese are welcome to him. I&#8217;m sure the government there will find a way to support him and his family (who are innocent victims).  </p>
<p>I hope you guys who are outraged were also aghast at the fact that the FBI mole Hanson was able to keep his retirement pension as part of his plea bargain (so his wife and 4 (?) kids could be supported while he did a life sentence).  That&#8217;s the sentence I find unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: Zdunk</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1570</link>
		<author>Zdunk</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised in this comments sections not to see the OBVIOUS mentioned.

Japan - right to the top, the PM of Japan - wanted him released.  Japan, the nation which America quietly owes a lot.

Then, Jenkins confession and his bizarrely lenient pro-Japanese sentence is timed for the day after the US elections.  Wow, what a coincidence!  

People, it is missing something to talk about this without mentioning Japan's wishes and influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised in this comments sections not to see the OBVIOUS mentioned.</p>
<p>Japan - right to the top, the PM of Japan - wanted him released.  Japan, the nation which America quietly owes a lot.</p>
<p>Then, Jenkins confession and his bizarrely lenient pro-Japanese sentence is timed for the day after the US elections.  Wow, what a coincidence!  </p>
<p>People, it is missing something to talk about this without mentioning Japan&#8217;s wishes and influence.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1569</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 06:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People here seem to be missing the big picture- I'm especially surprised that the military contingent is overlooking some aspects.  Yea, he deserted.  For that, he's an ass and should get what's coming to him.  But wait a minute- there is a country with which we are currently negotiating peace and nuclear issues with- a country about which our already weak inteligence service knows little about, and suddenly someone with 40 years experience with government, military, and intelligence agencies comes out and might just have a thing or two to tell us.  As much as I would like to see this guy rot in jail, I have to understand that the information he can provide about NK is much more valuable than the satisfaction of knowing he got what was coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People here seem to be missing the big picture- I&#8217;m especially surprised that the military contingent is overlooking some aspects.  Yea, he deserted.  For that, he&#8217;s an ass and should get what&#8217;s coming to him.  But wait a minute- there is a country with which we are currently negotiating peace and nuclear issues with- a country about which our already weak inteligence service knows little about, and suddenly someone with 40 years experience with government, military, and intelligence agencies comes out and might just have a thing or two to tell us.  As much as I would like to see this guy rot in jail, I have to understand that the information he can provide about NK is much more valuable than the satisfaction of knowing he got what was coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Infidel</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1568</link>
		<author>Infidel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 14:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1568</guid>
		<description>The judge should not have allowed the defense to take him into a position where he either looked judicious or cruel. If the man plea bargained out, perhaps soldiers can forgive him if he delivers information. But he should be excluded from any book or movie deals. He played Tokyo, Beijing, and Pyongyang off on Washington once, and perhaps letting him return made good sense for diplomatic relations (dealing as we are with a public who are small-brained sycophants like you obviously causes these kinds of compromises), but now he should retire quietly. If he does, I'll be happy, but I could never trust him again. Anyway, let him stay in Japan. Hopefully, he realizes he caused his situation, not the military or Washington. If not then he has not been punished enough.

BTW, I served in the military, and my family has, too, for generations, in worser situations than this man ran away from. Unlike this scumbag, I didn't break my oath. I'll accept your taunt and the fact that you are wrong, but you deserve what you got, and should get more. If you want to debate this point further, don't insult people. Don't take youe ex-law student pose for some counter-cultural, amoral flight. Frankly, I find your defense of this man reprehensible, considering that there are plenty of good people whose lives are not interesting enough to warrant the type of media hype this man can generate and the damage his story causes (obviously, he now has you defending him). As I said, forgiveness is earned, not bestowed, unless, of course, yu believe you are God. perhaps that is your problem,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The judge should not have allowed the defense to take him into a position where he either looked judicious or cruel. If the man plea bargained out, perhaps soldiers can forgive him if he delivers information. But he should be excluded from any book or movie deals. He played Tokyo, Beijing, and Pyongyang off on Washington once, and perhaps letting him return made good sense for diplomatic relations (dealing as we are with a public who are small-brained sycophants like you obviously causes these kinds of compromises), but now he should retire quietly. If he does, I&#8217;ll be happy, but I could never trust him again. Anyway, let him stay in Japan. Hopefully, he realizes he caused his situation, not the military or Washington. If not then he has not been punished enough.</p>
<p>BTW, I served in the military, and my family has, too, for generations, in worser situations than this man ran away from. Unlike this scumbag, I didn&#8217;t break my oath. I&#8217;ll accept your taunt and the fact that you are wrong, but you deserve what you got, and should get more. If you want to debate this point further, don&#8217;t insult people. Don&#8217;t take youe ex-law student pose for some counter-cultural, amoral flight. Frankly, I find your defense of this man reprehensible, considering that there are plenty of good people whose lives are not interesting enough to warrant the type of media hype this man can generate and the damage his story causes (obviously, he now has you defending him). As I said, forgiveness is earned, not bestowed, unless, of course, yu believe you are God. perhaps that is your problem,</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.jsharrison.com/korea/2004/11/04/deserter-charles-r-jenkins-sent-to-prison/#comment-1567</link>
		<author>Prince Roy</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 06:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever.  like I said, the judge made the right call, so you'll just have to live with it.  keep on with your weird, incomprehensible rant if it makes you feel better.  as far as your peurile name calling, sticks and stones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever.  like I said, the judge made the right call, so you&#8217;ll just have to live with it.  keep on with your weird, incomprehensible rant if it makes you feel better.  as far as your peurile name calling, sticks and stones&#8230;</p>
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