Sick to Death Part V: The Final Chapter?

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 6:30 pm on Wednesday, August 25, 2004
“If they accidentally mailed Carrot Top an academy award for best actor, that doesn’t mean he won.”
- Jim Rome

I think all discussion on this particular topic has been exhausted. Everyone that cares about it, and even some of those that don’t care (like myself) seem to have made their decision as to how this matter should be resolved. Just to lay this matter to rest for me and the people that for whatever reason have nothing better to do in their lives at the moment than to read this, I present my final views on this (non)issue.

First, I think it is important and necessary to separate two aspects of the judging. There are elements that are part of the performance and subjective in that they are open to interpretation or may involve seeing or not seeing a certain element. These types of elements would include such things as whether an athletes knees buckled, whether she stepped out of bounds, did he drop the ball, and other such things.

There are also elements that are outside of the performance itself and are objectively identifiable and designed to ensure that the playing field is equal and fair for all parties. Such elements would include the start values, time on the clock, the height of various apparatus, the weight of the athletes, and similar elements.

In an ideal sporting world, no review of either of these types of elements would be allowed or even necessary. However, judges are only human. Thus, judges make errors. Then question should be, then, whether parties should be allowed to demand review and reconsideration of suspected mistakes involving any of the aforementioned elements, and if so, should the reviews and reconsiderations be without limit?

I do not think that reviews should ever be allowed for suspected, or even obvious mistakes in the judging or interpreting of subjective elements, unless there is at least strong evidence or a strong appearance of intentional wrongdoing on the part of the judges or referees. The possibility that things will be missed or bad calls will be made is part of the sport itself. It does not affect the overall fairness of the game even though they may effect the outcome of the game or event. If you allow reviews of these things, they could go on and on forever. Every little detail could be questioned and protested. Such things would quickly destroy the integrity of and interest in any sport subject to such reviews. It just can’t be allowed to happen.

As for the objective, quantifiable mistakes that create unfair situations, give one side an unfair advantage, create an unfair disadvantage, or in some other way interfere with the fairness and neutrality of the game. If judges or referees miscount the number of fouls on a player, the number of time outs available, gives incorrect start values, set the apparatus and wrong heights, deny time or give too much time, put someone in the wrong weight class, etc. the game itself is no longer fair and equal. These are errors that are easily avoided and destroy the integrity of the competition. Reviews and protests should be allowed for errors of such objective matters. That having been said, there are rules and regulations in place that limit the time for filing protests or appeals. These limits are necessary to prevent the disagreements from going on forever.

When applied to this situation. there are basically two things people are saying. Those that are on the side of giving gold to the Koreans are arguing that the start value was incorrect and he should be given the .10 that was deducted and given the gold medal along with it because his score would elevate him to first place. On the side that is against giving the Koreans gold, the main argument is that the Korean had one too many holds on the bar and he crouched a bit on the dismount so he should have been deducted .20 points, which means he wouldn’t have won the gold anyway.

To me, these are two separate and distinct categories of argument. The argument that the judges screwed up in not deducting points for having too many holds and a bad dismount are arguments of the subjective variety that should never be reviewed because they are subjectively analyzed and inherently subject to various interpretations.

On the other hand, the argument that the start value was .10 points low is no subject to interpretation. It is objectively verifiable. Also, it affected the equality and fairness of the event. The event was unfair to the Korean even before his performance began.Therefore, it is my firm opinion that the Koreans should be allowed to protest the scoring and demand that something be done, whether it is taking the medal from Hamm and giving it to the Korean or giving two golds, or whatever. However, and this is a very big “however” there are reasonable rules setting time limits for making protests and appeals, and the Korean team knew the deadline and chose to ignore it and not risk having the rest of their performance prejudiced by the protest. In other words, the Korean coach weighed his options and chose to wait until after the known deadline expired to make his protest.

Therefore, I fully agree with and support the Koreans right to protest the clearly unfair start value. I fully understand and appreciate the Koreans in their efforts to secure a second gold medal for their gymnast. I think it is quite generous and shows a great deal of decency and sportsmanship that they do not want Hamm to lose his medal. However, the Korean coach knew the deadline for filing protests and the consequences for not protesting before the deadline. Rules are there to regulate the sport and to provide structure, stability, and predictability to the medals process. After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that although it was initially unfair to be started at a lower start value than he should have been, the Korean coach immediately realized the error and knew the deadline, but he chose to ignore it. Thus, Korea had ample time to seek a review of the issue, but voluntarily chose not to seek the review until after deadline had expired. Although the judges were initially to blame for giving the wrong start value, but the rule makers know that the judges are all human and prone to making an occasional error, thus the rules provide a way for the error of humans to be rectified. However, ultimately, the coach is to blame for this because he consciously chose to ignore the process for rectifying the errors of the human judges and instead filed too late. Thus, I personally do not think that the Koreans should be given a separate gold medal. Rather, it should be explained as a horrible mistake by the coach, and the coach should bear full responsibility for consciously disregarding the known rules and procedures and purposefully filing lately.

That having been said, Hamm who started out as an innocent victim should understand the difference between the two arguments and accept that based on the objective errors he should not have been awarded the gold medal. Although I do not think he should be stripped of his medal, I believe that he should give it up. At this point, Hamm’s argument is that he is the champion because the Korean did not complain in time and that the Korean had too many holds, the latter argument can be discarded because it is a subjective argument in that it depends upon the perception of the judges and what they notice. When Hamm’s complaint is distilled to it’s basic form, we see that he is simply saying that the judges made a mistake but the Koreans protested too late so tough luck, Korea. While that may be true as far as the interpretation of the rules is concerned, it is bad form and sportsmanship for Hamm. Hamm will have to live the rest of his life telling stories to kids and grandkids about how he “earned” a gold medal because of a technicality, even though he should not really have won it. I strongly believe that Hamm should give up his gold medal voluntarily. I couldn’t live with myself if that was my situation. I would have to give the medal up..not necessarily to the Koreans. What to do with tthat decision lies with the olympic oficials.

Thus, my personalized views are that Korea should not get a second review and should not be awarded a second gold and the Korean coach is to blame….Howevemedalr Hamm should surrender the gold medal voluntarily. If he doesn’t and insists on keeping his unearned medal, then perhaps there could be a loophole in the rules that would allow the Koreans to insist on receiving the a similar medal that they did not really earn.

Perhaps, the ultimate solution for preserving the integrity of the games and alleviating these types of disputes to the fullest extent possible is to remove all games from the Olympics that cannot be settled with a tape measure, stopwatch, scoreboard, or a straight “You win or you lose” decision.

11 Comments

Comment by Paul Webb, USA

27 August 2004 @ 6:23 am

Actually, I thought Carrot Top deserved an Academy award for his performance in “Dennis the Menace Strikes Again.”

Comment by Steve

27 August 2004 @ 7:39 am

There is another objective point that was not addressed concering the Korean’s parallel bar routine. He broke the rules concerning the number of holds (stops) that can be taken during the routine. Only 3 are allowed and he came to 4 stops. NBC pointed this out and showed on tape all four holds. Paul Hamm, on that basis, objectively won the Gold medal.

Comment by Jeff in Korea

27 August 2004 @ 8:29 am

Steve, the number of holds was addressed in detail above. Let me help:

On the side that is against giving the Koreans gold, the main argument is that the Korean had one too many holds on the bar and he crouched a bit on the dismount so he should have been deducted .20 points, which means he wouldn’t have won the gold anyway.

To me, these are two separate and distinct categories of argument. The argument that the judges screwed up in not deducting points for having too many holds and a bad dismount are arguments of the subjective variety that should never be reviewed because they are subjectively analyzed and inherently subject to various interpretations.

At this point, Hamm’s argument is that he is the champion because the Korean did not complain in time and that the Korean had too many holds, the latter argument can be discarded because it is a subjective argument in that it depends upon the perception of the judges and what they notice.

Again, how many hold the Korean had is a subjective part because it is subject to the notice and interpretation of the judges. One judge may see it and one judge may not. Although it would be easily noticed on a review, like an out of bouds ball, it was a part of the performance itself and thefore should never be reviewable because of the “Pandora’s Box” effect that it would create that would ultimately destroy the integrity of the sport. As a matter of fact, the Koreans are now saying that THEY reviewed PAUL HAMM’S tape and found a few things that the judges missed, which would have put Hamm’s score lower than the Korean’s score even with a deduction for an extra hold. Where does it end? That is shy such things cannot be reviewable.

On the other hand, the start value was a condition imposed upon the Korean by the judges. It was a state of being that was outside of and unrelated to the performance itself. Thus, it is completely objective and should be reviewable, within the proper time frame.

Thus, the start value should be reviewable and the number of holds cannot be reviewable.

Comment by big al

27 August 2004 @ 2:44 pm

I know what happens. It’s those damn pregnant chads again, just like in Florida. The sad thing is like Jeff stated earlier in that next week no one in American is going to give a flying figleaf what happened; where the Koreans will probably be boo-hooing about how Yang was robbed for the next nine months. Klingons!

Comment by Silly Sally

27 August 2004 @ 3:55 pm

Jeff,

How do you know Paul Hamm will be ashamed to tell his grandkids about his gold medal?

Paul Hamm seems to be damned proud for not allowing himself to be jerked around by everyone else’s incompetency and narcissistic injury.

He will probably brim with pride telling his grandkids about doing his best, being handed a gold meda, and not allowing the system to jerk him around by taking it back — due to no fault of his own.

Paul Hamm is a champ in more than one way.

Comment by Jeffrey Wheeler

28 August 2004 @ 12:33 am

There is another issue: We cannot say that Yang would have won had his start value been correct, because all of the values that followed were perceptual. We can’t go back and challenge the baseline without challenging its consequences. We can’t treat the ’subjective’ scores as ‘objective.’ Would the judges and the competitors have acted the same way had Yang’s start value been correct? If we cannot prove that–and we can’t–then we have no way of knowing who really earned what.

Mistakes, both subjective and objective, are inherent in the meet. Start errors are extremely common, and an [unfair] exception was made for reviewing them in this case. I have never heard of a gymnastics competition where there *weren’t* start errors. Unless they are more than a tenth off, they are almost always shrugged off (as the South Korean coach did until too late).

Either the error invalidates the whole meet and nobody earned his medal, or he earned his medal as fairly as any other winner in gymnastics. Or, to put it another way, Hamm either has a sham medal and would be making a sham gesture in giving it to an equally undeserving opponent, or he has a deserved medal and would being caving under undue pressure by giving it up.

Comment by John

28 August 2004 @ 3:26 am

I think Jeffrey makes a good point. In yesterday’s final match in soccer between the U.S. and Brazil an apparent hand ball by an American player preceeded the first goal of the match. After the Brazilians scored, the game finished in a tie at the end of the second half. A natural fan reaction is to think that if the hand ball had been called, the U.S. wouldn’t have scored and would have thus lost the game 1-0. However, had the hand ball been called, the game would have unfolded differently. The U.S. might have played more aggressively without the lead, a key player could have sprained her ankle on the next play, Brazil might have gone on a 5-0 run (they certainly could have with as many shots on goal as they had).

I was tought at an early age to abondon my “what if” mentality when it came to sports and life. I certainly feel sorry for Yang and I think he has an honest beef. It’s entirely likely that if the starting score not been deducted he would have gone on the win the gold. But you can’t go back in time bump up the score and just assume that scores and performances would have remained constant. I’m sure you can argue that the likelihood would have been extremly high, but there are too many variables to consider to say so absolutely. In less it can be proven that the decision for the starting value was anything other than an honest mistake, the rules must be followed.

Four days before the men’s team compitition was to take place a Japanese judge, apparently on his own accord, decided hand out a lower point value for major elements in two of the U.S team member’s routines. Gymnasts spend months learning new routines and these two particular routines were scored higher all the way up till 4 days before competition. The judge, a former olympic gymnast, had to have known how this would have impacted their performance. Does it seem unfair…yes. Is he entirely within his rights to make that determination…yes. The U.S. went on the win the silver. It’s possible that if their elements been scored as they had all the way up to the olympic games, they might have taken gold. But shit happens. In my mind, it in no way diminishes the performance by the Japanese men…they ended the night with a number of unbelievably solid routines and are more than deserving of the gold medal. But what if, what if. (note: I’m aware that these examples do not exactly parallel the Yang/Hamm incident, but the general argument remains the same.)

Regardless, Hamm’s gold medal, for better or worse, will now be tarnished. Giving Yang a share of the gold or Hamm voluntary relinquishing his medal are two outcomes I would fully support. But these outcomes are unlikely.

One thing that I know for certain though, is that in 3-4 months the average American will be saying “Paul who?!?”. Gymnastics, along with a boatload of other unpopular sports here in the States, will be relegated to the dustbin for another 4 years. It seems sad, but oh well, the nfl season and mlb playoffs are just around the corner. They’ll provide ample opportunties to bitch and moan about calls and decisions that, taken in perspective, mean very little.

Comment by Brian

28 August 2004 @ 8:50 am

Ah, yes. Shades of chaos theory and the butterfly effect (the propensity of a system to be sensitive to initial conditions). See, e.g., http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e11/86/beffect.html.

Perhaps we will soon have a new event — olympic lawyering! (my only chance of ever winning a gold medal)

Comment by DiaKorea

28 August 2004 @ 1:43 pm

Yes Jeff I agree with everything! but dont forget that PAUL HAMM IS A GOLDSTEALER!!! and OHNO IS A HOLLYWOOD GOLDSTEALER.

Qoreans need to cheer more like the russians and then they will get a higher score.

Comment by Rick

3 September 2004 @ 12:15 am

Excellent analysis and conclusions regarding the Hamm/Korea gold medal controversy. I particularly liked the way you separated the legal issues (rules, appeals, subjective versus objective judging, etc.) from the more important character issue (what Hamm should have done personally). Regretably, the character issue has been almost entirely overlooked in the mainstream media who has instead focused on legal analysis as if this was a political issue and not a sporting event. Interestingly enough, consider for a moment what would have happened if Hamm had immediately and vocally insisted that the Korean gymnist should get the gold and he the silver because the sport should not be tarnished by objective (and correctable) human error? Had that happened, I think we would have had our Olympic Hero for the games and a story that would rival that of Kerri Straugg (sp?) from the last Olympics (or was that two Olympics ago?). However, instead we have reality where Hamm is no hero and the Olympics are one step closer to being about as interesting as watching the United Nations General Assembly. Anyway, thanks again for the excellent analysis… -Rick

Comment by Paul

3 September 2004 @ 7:50 pm

actually, the start values are subjective, otherwise there would be no reason to assign them and have two judges independently come up with start value which they then compare and agree upon. therefore, start value is as subjecitive as a missed deduction in a routine. sorry, you can’t argue for one and against the other…

diakorea, when is roy jones getting his gold medal?

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