Sick to Death Part II

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 12:01 pm on Saturday, August 21, 2004

This originally started out as a reply to a comment made by Jaemi to yesterday’s post. However, the reply got out of hand and developed into its own post.

Jaemi.

Perhaps you should invest a little time and effort into a reading comprehension course.

Yes I watched the gymnastics. So, whatever you were trying to imply by incorrectly suggesting/assuming that I didn’t is completely useless.

Although I have a little sister who was involved in gymnastics, had a friend in high school that was into gymnastics, and briefly dated a girl that tried out for the US olympic swim team, I have no idea how to judge or score gymnastics. As Zdunk said above, I “just marvel and am told the winners.”

I don’t think anyone DESERVES to win anything. You earn it, or sometimes you catch a lucky break. I don’t know if Hamm was scored too high, or if the Koreans were scored too low. Frankly, I don’t care. Really, I couldn’t care less. My point is not who should get the medals. I really really don’t care. My problem is with how Korean athletes and fans react to sporting events.

Again, what I care about is the way that a huge number of Koreans, including the athletes react. It is disgustingly poor sportsmanship for athletes to scowl, rip their medals off their necks, file protests, throw their nation’s flag on the ice, etc. And Koreans are also internationally known for being not just sore losers, but also sore winners, acting like childish jackasses when they “show up” an opponent. Korean fans sending death threats to athletes, crashing Olympic Committee internet servers, etc. is even more disgusting. In a brilliant article written by Art Thiel of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, he comments on this type of behavior present at the 2002 Olympics in my relative home town of Salt Lake City. His article features the ridiculous behavior of….you guessed it, the Koreans:


Yesterday the Russians threatened to pull out. The Koreans threatened to sue in federal court. By the time you read this, Carjackistan probably will have filed a protest over the judgment call that ice should be cold and hard.


First, brief perspective. All Olympics have been speckled with judgment errors. Ask the 1972 U.S. Olympic basketball team that was jobbed against Russia, or American boxer Roy Jones, who lost his 1988 gold medal to a South Korean who was as surprised as everyone else in Seoul. Examples from all nations and all Games are many.

I couldn’t help but notice that Mr. Thiel diplomatically avoided mentioning that a South Korean judge in the Roy Jones match was almost certainly bribed to be sympathetic to the Korean boxer and that strict regulations were put in place to prevent corruption in olympic boxing as a result.

As long as we are on the subject of protests, whining, boxing, and the 1988 Olympics, Should I mentioned the legendary bantamweight fight involving Byun Jong-il? (Yes, Jaemi, I watched that one too) Byun felt that the New Zealand referee unfairly deducted a point for Byun using his head. How did Byun react? Like a complete idiot. He sat on the mat in the ring for 67 minutes after losing. Byun gave up on his protest only after the organizers turned off the area lights and went home. (incidentally, the Koreans also protested the US television action of continuing to show the protest to its humorous end on world-wide TV) Byun’s episode wasn’t limited to the sit down protest. The referee was physically attacked and beaten up by the Korean trainers after the bout. As if that weren’t enough, participating in the beat down was one of the security guards assigned to protect the referee.

This isn’t without precedent. In the 1964 flyweight competition, South Korea’s Choh Dong Kih was disqualified in a second round bout against the Soviet fighter Stanislav Sorokin for holding his head too low. He sat in the ring in protest for 51 minutes.

Mr. Thiel then points out two aspects of the 2002 games that are equally applicable to the 2004 games:

The Internet and TV are now so pervasive that, instead of throwing a shoe at a bad call, people of many nations can complain directly to national organizing committees.

American success here at the Games, and influence generally, is, as always, resented.

What isn’t America’s fault these days? I challenge readers to find a single Korean that knows the referee in the Ohno incident was Australian and not American.

On the second point, we’ll be brief again. Nearly all of the complainants have politely skirted what they think is overwrought sympathy or boosterism for America that they believe influences judges and outcomes. But watch what happens when all are safely back home and not subject to insulting the host country to its face. Guaranteed, they will assert it was all America’s fault. But that point is familiar and frankly less interesting than the first point.

Although it may be less interesting to others, it seems to be the focus of many Korean fan’s lives. Koreans don’t wait until the get home. They are insta-whiners.

Mr. Thiel ends with a very appropriate conclusion.

The … Koreans did what ‘most all officials do under pressure — they grandstand and attempt to fix blame elsewhere.

The news conferences yesterday were attempts to show the folks back home that bygawd, they’re angry about bad calls too, and they’re in Salt Lake doing something about it.

The question is, will it get anywhere?

The likely answer is no.

The Koreans’ protest was rejected within hours by the ISU last night, a spokesman saying the decision of the referees was final. The Koreans still can sue, but the action seems ridiculous on its face, however justified their indignation might be.

So what yesterday amounted to was sound and fury signifying nothing.

Sure, they might sit out the closing ceremonies, but so what?

Still, the gestures, however empty, will nevertheless have a souring effect on a Games that on many fronts have gotten on splendidly.

Bad calls? You bet.

Welcome to sports.

Welcome to life.

One thing that far too many Korean fans and athletes seem unable to wrap their minds around is the fact that, in sports, bad calls go both ways. Sometimes you benefit from them. Sometimes they kick you in the head. From my experience, it seems to just about balance out in the end. Judges, referees, umpires, and other officials are not omnipresent, omniscient gods. They may miss things that cameras catch, they may think they see things that don’t really happen. But a bad call, particuarly in a multi-judge sport like gymnastics, is not a national insult, nor is it part of a conspiracy to elevate the US and single out poor, weak, helpless Korea and humiliate them before the eyes of the world.

Whether Koreans can accept the reality or not, sports are only sports, and Americans simply don’t care enough about olympic gymnastics (and I bet 90% of Americans had never heard of short-track skating until Koreans started acting like imbiciles) to go to the trouble of arranging the results. If it was pure sympathy on the part of the judges, blame the judges, not Hamm or the US. Better yet. blame your athletes for not doing .0012 better to ensure the win.

Regarding the protest, International Gymnastics Federation Spokesman, Phillipe Silacci said, “Judges can make mistakes. But it’s like football. They cannot change the score once the game is over.”

Korean gymnast Yang, who was allegedly robbed of the gold, said “What I want is justice and fairness in the judging.”

As long as Koreans are demanding fairness and justice in judging, and as Silacci brought up football, why weren’t Koreans protesting when Spain had a goal disallowed during its 2002 World Cup match with Korea when Morientes headed in from close range and the referee judged that the ball had gone out of play before being crossed in by Joaquin, when replays clearly showed that the ball had not gone out of bounds. Oh yeah… we don’t call for “justice and fairness” when bad calls benefit our side. Whining when bad calls go against us and winking and looking the other way when bad calls benefit us is sad, shameful, and hypocritical. Either protest everything good and bad, or shut up and accept what comes.

So…what to do about this alleged bad gymnastics call? Let it sit? Forget about it and hope for a lucky break next time? No. Yang’s coach has a better idea. “If we take a gold medal from Paul hamm, his heart will be broken, and my heart would also be broken by that. So, I think there should be two gold medals.”

Giving two gold medals, one to Hamm and one to Yang. Wouldn’t that be nice? Why quit there? Why not do as Mr. Thiel suggested in the opening paragraphs of his article two years ago and “just give gold medals to all at the Winter Olympics, and let’s go home early.” Well, if not everyone, just make sure all Korean athletes get gold medals so that we don’t have to listen to this crap every olympics.

17 Comments

Comment by Blinger

21 August 2004 @ 12:17 pm

Excellent post.

Comment by scott

21 August 2004 @ 9:18 pm

Like you mentioned in your post, there was a lesson to be learned in the 2002 World Cup when Italy and Spain complained bitterly about being robbed of wins.

It looks like that lesson was not learned. Ironically, Koreans worry so much about their image yet seem to take every opportunity to wreck it.

Comment by DiaKorea

22 August 2004 @ 4:01 pm

Jeff, lets set all the doubters straight. first of all. yang was a better gymnist. Qoreans have a better body for gymnasm then foreigners. Foreignes have smelly feet and smelly arm pits and Qoreans do not. Qoreans do not!.

this aids them to be better atheletes. that is why such a small country like Qorea has so many medals. In fact Qorea has among the most medals in the world.

That is why my new neame for Qorea is not \”land of the morning calm\” its Qorea \” land of miracles\” . Many foreingers come to Qorea and make riches beyond belief from their native canada. also most foreignes come to Qorea \”land of miracles\” even though they are white trash and only burger flippers and become rich and famous.

Jeff they alos get to eat such delicies such as \”mrs song\” \” asia best burger\” Jeff you cannot get better bugers in asia!! and they are only availabe in the \”land of miracles\”

Jeff that is why Qorean athelets are so straong and DILIGANT. foreingers do not wake up to miracles each day and eat \”asian most famous burgers\” like mrs song. Jeff this is why Qoreans aar the best athelts in the world. also Qoreans eat kimchee and kimbap(yumm)

jeff only american arrogans and gold stealing robbed Qorea from the medal. Many white trash people complane about Qorea \”land of miracles\” and they should go home.

Jeff Qorea should have the GOLD and then the arrogant gold stealing americans should bring precous innocent \”mi son\” \”hyo son\” and \”son il\” back to life and little bush should apologise 10000 times by marching from pusan to seoul doing the three step one bow march. (different and better the chinas two step one bow march)

Comment by JJ

23 August 2004 @ 8:16 pm

You sure make an awful lot of generalizations about Koreans. Eh. Can’t be helped, I suppose.

Comment by DiaKorea

24 August 2004 @ 12:05 am

Is it a generalization that canadians make GOLD in Qorea. I think not. ask any canacian why they are in the \\\”land of miracles\\\” thwy will tell you its for the GOLD. its no generalization. JJ. its no generalization that Qorea is the TRUE land of MIRACLES!!! look at Jeff. Jeff found a woman and a pot of gold and this BLOG. arguably the best blog in ASIA.

also JEFF eats the best BURGERS in ASIA. SONGS!!! JJ. take a \\\”chill pill\\\” and quit hating. QOrea has all that the world wants. Why else do Japanese womenn and asian women swoon over hansome charming Qorean guys.

JJ. dont be so jeslous of Qoera.HUG Qorea and Qorea will HUG you back. QOREA; LAND OF MIRACLES.

JJ, QOREA HAS THE EAST SEA. AND FOUR SEASONS!!

Comment by Zdunk

24 August 2004 @ 4:00 am

Dia, you found yr funny again….

Comment by hanin

24 August 2004 @ 1:06 pm

Jeff, a book I recommend to you not only for the relevancy of the subject but also for James Michener’s fluid writing. I also recommend it because he was in many ways like many of you displaced whites in Asia, Pacific, etc. Title: Sports in America. Quite a long book but there is a chapter about the effect of the competitive sports mentality and the aggression that it fosters amongst the youth. Remember it was the famous American who said “winning is not everything; it is the only thing.” And with that we have the idiot American football players who can’t seem to appreciate the athleticism of men and women who just happen to not wear helmets, shoulder pads and hoot like pigs while half of them bend over on the field.

Comment by Jeff in Korea

24 August 2004 @ 1:21 pm

Hanin: Thanks for the recommendation. I agree with you about the American Football thing. Take off those pads and the rest of the full body armor and square up with some Aussie rules footballers, rugby players, lacrosse players, and others.

Comment by hanin

24 August 2004 @ 2:00 pm

Jeff, are you an Aussie?

Comment by Jeff in Korea

24 August 2004 @ 2:07 pm

No. American. But Aussie football is pretty cool.

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Comment by j

1 September 2004 @ 2:10 am

Since the FIG did admit for the scoring error, this created a large cloud over Paul Hamm’s Gold Medal.

I believe this is not the issue of which country is at fault.

It is plain issue of fairness.
I don’t think I would feel comfortable having a gold medal which I was not supposed to earn.

I don’t think Olympic games are like lottery.
It is more an issue of personal effort.

I don’t even think national pride matters so much. Even though nations used Olympics to make political statements.

We should blam FIG for allowing such a doubt.
Now, Koreans are claiming for their gold for Yang. Would not anyone do that if this happened to them????

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