Questions….Always Questions

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 11:18 am on Wednesday, August 18, 2004

More ponderables….

1. Why is it that “honest,” “caring,” “compassionate,” Democrats…particularly those who run for high office feel the need to lie about things that can obviously and easily be checked? I won’t even get in to the weird stuff like “I never has sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky,” “I invented the internet,” “The move love story was written about me,” and such things.

A. Kerry as said that he didn’t use Botox last year. Any one with eyes can see that he did. Why lie?

B. Kerry has lied about whether he threw his Vietnam Medals over the White House fence: Why lie?

i)He said he threw his Vietnam medals over the White House fence.

ii)Then he said that he gave back 6, 7, 8, or 9 of his medals, including the Bronze and Silver Stars and three Purple Hearts and saying “Well, and above that, I gave back my others.”

iii)Then, In 1984, when running for the Senate against a World War II Air Force veteran, he claimed he had refused to do so after showing a reporter his medals and ribbons on display in his Back Bay apartment,and said the medals he was seen tossing, were those of a “veteran from Lincoln [Mass.], at his request.”

iv)Then, most recently, during his 1996 re-election campaign, he told the Globe that he only threw the ribbons pinned to his uniform. “Asked why he didn’t bring his own medals to throw since it was planned weeks in advance,” the Globe reported on Oct. 6, 1996, “Kerry said it was because he didn’t have time to go home [to New York] and get them.” The medals he was seen tossing, he claimed, belonged to *two* other veterans — the one from Lincoln and one from New York. “Kerry says he can’t remember their names.”

C. I really don’t want to talk about lying to get a silver star, that he personally nominated himeself for, for “The extraordinary daring and personal courage of Lt. Kerry in attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire were responsible for the highly successful mission” when it appears that he actually shot a single fleeing, wounded, unarmed, teenage boy in the back.

D. Just last week saw him lie about where in was on Christmas 1968. in October 1979, Mr. Kerry said this: “I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.” Then later, on the floor of the Senate on March 27, 1986, Sen. John Kerry issued this statement: “I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared - seared - in me.” He has told this lie about Christmas in Cambodia at least 50 times. However:

i) Nixon wasn’t president in 1968

ii) All living members of Kerry’s chain of command and three of the five people on his boat deny that they were ever in Cambodia.

iii) Khmer Rouge did basically nothing before 1970 and didn’t come into power until 1975.

iv) Kerry’s own Vietnam biography written by his hand-piced biographer places him 50 miles away from Cambodia on Christmas 1968.

iv) The latest part of the lie/cover up came last week when the explanation was, “Kerry went into Cambodian waters three or four times in January and February 1969 on clandestine missions. He had a run dropping off US Navy Seals, Green Berets and CIA guys.”

E. The most recent lie, and one of the strangest, in that it is so obviously false and so easy to check is the claim on August 13, 2004 on Kerry’s own, official website, that John Kerry is an Experienced Leader in the Intelligence Field ? John Kerry served on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for 8 years and is the former Vice Chairman of the Committee. You’ll have to look at it from google’s cached site because part of that quote is no longer on Kerry’s site. Why is it no longer there? Because John Kerry was NEVER, EVER the Vice Chairman of the Committee! It was a flat out bald-faced lie…and they go caught. The sneaky part is, a senator with a similar name WAS Vice Chairman….BOB KERREY.

14 Comments

Comment by Scott-in-Japan

18 August 2004 @ 2:36 pm

But remember, Bush is always the evil one…. Although I may vote for myself next election.

Comment by Bernard Moon

18 August 2004 @ 4:52 pm

Jeff,

Funny timing cuz I just posted an entry about Kerry’s lying with a question on whether he is pathological, and then visited your site just now. Since he is an intelligent person, it goes against common sense that he would lie about things such as the Bob Kerrey mix up since it would obviously be revealed in time.

Comment by Jeff in Korea

18 August 2004 @ 5:31 pm

I think it is something inherent in the democratic party…the overwhelming need to puff yourself up and lie about stupid thing that any 6th grader to check on. I don’t understand why someone so high profile would say or do something like that.

Comment by Dan Mehlhorn

18 August 2004 @ 10:46 pm

Also, the Kool-Aid drinkers will always change the subject, run away or attack you with libelous insinuations when you force them into a corner about Kerry’s lying.

Question is, since he lies in such inconsequential situations, what will he do under pressure?

Comment by Jeff in Korea

19 August 2004 @ 9:58 am

Exactly Dan…. I WAS going to mention that… The discussions always going something like this:

Republican: Kerry lied. He said x, then he said y:

Democrat: Well, Bush is an idiot.

Republican: Kerry also lied when he said this, then this.

Democrat: Bush is a jackass.

Comment by DiaKorea

19 August 2004 @ 7:32 pm

Yess Jeff, you and bernard moom are the true americans. I agree with you guys. Kerry is full of lies. You and barnard moom like the VANK of usa. Those lies are just the tip of the iceberg. there are millions more.

Jeff. Tell us more about the \”kerry distortions\”. How many times did he lie about the medals. I bet hundreds!!! he is a dirty liar just like china. Jeff if we let liars like that in the whitehouse then he will surly lie about korean history and lie about Koguro and korean hisotoy and chinese distorion.

jeff we need to stop him!!!

Comment by Diakorea

19 August 2004 @ 7:36 pm

Yess Jeff, you and bernard moom are the true americans. I agree with you guys. Kerry is full of lies. You and barnard moom like the VANK of usa. Those lies are just the tip of the iceberg. there are millions more.

Jeff. Tell us more about the \\\”kerry distortions\\\”. How many times did he lie about the medals. I bet hundreds!!! he is a dirty liar just like china. Jeff if we let liars like that in the whitehouse then he will surly lie about korean history and lie about Koguro and korean hisotoy and chinese distorion.

jeff we need to stop him!!!

Comment by Zdunk

21 August 2004 @ 2:53 am

It is sobering stuff to hear about Kerry.

And now, since the Vietnam war on character is such an issue to you, I hope you will post your analysis of Bush Jr’s war. The 48 hour jump from last on the Texas Air nation guard list to first. His own extravagant claims in the ghostwritten bio he did while running for Texas gov. which said he “defended the American homeland during the war” (Zdunk snorts pepsi thru his nose laughing at this one). His prancing around on the carrier flight deck strutting “Mission Over” ?

Please also analyze your candidate.

I notice that in this elections, Republicans really have nothing positive to say about Bush. It is all attacks on Kerry. Please disprove this Jeff. Explain why someone should vote for Bush without mentioning Kerry. I could do it for Kerry. I doubt you can for Bush. That’s a challenge, bud!

Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 August 2004 @ 11:34 am

Zdunk, Bush’s military record is not an issue to me. He did not bring it up in his campaign. However, Kerry has made his 4 months in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign….and he has continually exaggerated and lied about it. If he brings it up, it is fair game…and you must notice that Kerry has yet to bring one single piece of hard evidence to disprove the attacks on his record. He simply replies with ad hominem attacks against the people making the claims. Very suspicious.

As for Bush. He is not my candidate. I used to be fiercly liberal. Hell, I even voted for Dukakis in 1988. Then I became libertarian, where I am today. I voted for Bush in the last election…the first time I have ever cast a vote for a republican presidential candidate.

I will be voting for Bush again. Why? because he has demonstrated leadership. Perfection? No. But leadership? Yes. He has principles, whether you agree with them or not. He is willing to stand up for those principles and see them through to the end. He will stand up for and protect US interests without kowtowing to the whinings of insignificant, irrelevant, often backstabbing allies and other countries.

Those are qualities that I admire and support. I simply do not see them in his opponent.

Had John Dean or John Edwards been the nominee for President, then I would have given them long and serious consideration. But not Kerry.

I will lay my prediction out here now….Bush will be re-elected in a landslide with 75% or more of the electoral votes.

Comment by Paul Webb, USA

21 August 2004 @ 11:56 am

DiaKorea, “Tell us more about the ‘kerry distortions’.”

Sure. Kerry said he spent Christmas 1968 in Cambodia. If he was just mistaken about events and dates of the war, no problem. But he brought that up specifically to complain about American foreign policy, lying about no troops being in Cambodia, when he personally was there. And it turns out he was the one lying. It makes a HUGE difference in the context he used it. He used it as an example of government lying, when in fact, it was he that was lying.

Zdunk, “‘defended the American homeland during the war’ (Zdunk snorts pepsi thru his nose laughing at this one).”

GW Bush was doing something statistically more dangerous than serving in Vietnam - flying fighter jets in the National Guard.

Zdunk, “Explain why someone should vote for Bush without mentioning Kerry.”

No problem.

Vote for Bush because he believes in the idea that civilization is worth fighting for in a contest with an ideology which aims to destroy it.

Vote for Bush because he will not allow Iran, a terrorist nation whose state policy is “Death to America,” develop and distribute nuclear weapons.

Vote for Bush because he believes that Arab-Israeli issues will be judged by their contribution to the goal of creating democratic institutions in the Middle East, and not upon any grounds of historical entitlement.

Vote for Bush because he will ignore leftist European calls for the U.S. to stand down its army and allow Islamofascism to grow stronger.

Vote for Bush because he met the threat posed by radical Islam similar to the way Roosevelt faced global fascism and Harry Truman’s response to the Soviet Union.

This is easy. Do you want me to go on?

Comment by Brian

21 August 2004 @ 4:57 pm

Jeff,

Gore never said \”I invented the internet.\” That was a lie.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.htm

The \”love story\” story is also garbage. Daily Howler debunks it here:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/h120699_1.shtml

In both cases, Gore was a victim of a hostile and irresponsible press.

But while were on the subject of trivial lies, Bush just got nailed for another one: going to Philly and telling the locals he likes his cheese steak they way they do, with Cheese whiz (as opposed to the Frenchy Kerry who eats his with swiss cheese). Turns out the sandwiches his campaign ordered were missing the critical ingredient.

I also remember Bush wiping out while riding his bike in Crawford and blaming it on some slick mud from recent rain. BUt the wheather report showed that Crawford was hot and dry for the previous 8 days or so…

Brian

Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 August 2004 @ 5:12 pm

But Brian, whatever Bush may say or do, that doesn\’t mean that Kerry doesn\’t exaggerate and or lie himself. Whether Bush says he slipped in mud or not doesn\’t mean that Kerry didn\’t shoot an unarmed,injured, fleeing teenager in the back and then recommend himself for a medal for overcoming vastly outnumbering forces. It doesn\’t mean that Kerry isn\’t hypocritical for demanding that Bush release his military records without releasing his own. It doesn\’t mean that Kerry\’s isn\’t hypocritical for insisting that that Mrs. Bush release her tax information while Mrs. Heinz…errr..Heinz-Kerry refuses to release hers. It doesn\’t mean that Kerry is hypocritical when Kerry stands up and talks about the evil wealthy members of congress, when he is by FAR the wealthiest person. It doesn\’t mean that he isn\’t hypocritcal when he talks about \”Benedict Arnold\” companies that ship their jobs off to countries with cheap labor forces when that is exactly what his wife\’s company did not long before he made that statement.

I seem to be of the opposite view as Zdunk. I have NEVER yet met anyone that was really pro-Kerry. Everyone that is planning to vote for Kerry seems to be simply voting against Bush. That is a dangerous attitude. No one has talked about the wonderful job Kerry has done and how he has espoused great causes that qualify him to be in charge.

Would you characterize yourself as pro-kerry or anti-bush?

In my case, until the Democrats can present me with a candidate that assures me that it will not be \”more of the same under a different name,\” then I will vote for proven leadership, stability, and character.

Comment by Brian

21 August 2004 @ 6:40 pm

Jeff,

I\’ve said on my blog several times that I\’m not all that enamored with John Kerry. Frankly, I find him a bit drab and boring… meaning he\’s the ultimate \”safe\” candidate for the Dems. I would have been a pro-Dean or pro-Edwards voter had the situation played out differently. But yea, at the moment, I\’m voting against Bush.

But so what? American voters have been voting for the lesser of two evils for years. Why this sudden shock that some people out there are voting for one guy because - surprise, surprise - he isn\’t as bad as the other.

I will, however, defend KErry on his war record. I find it deeply ironic that the conservatives like yourself, who heaped all sorts of praise on Pat Tillman for giving up the easy life and risking life and limb for his country, are no so quick to accept the most outlandish slander about Kerry and his war service. The media is finally getting around to examining the claims made by these Swift Boat veteran folks and their story is crumbling under the exposure.

Brian

Comment by Dan Mehlhorn

23 August 2004 @ 11:32 pm

Brian,

I see you are a member of kerry’s Motor Boat patrol. They go all over the web and make this “but, but, but,…” noise.

Kerry lied about being in Cambodia in 68. He has admitted and backed away from that. Kerry had to retract that he was Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee. That was Bob Kerrey of nebraska, a medal of honor winner.

Keep going but, but, but… Brian. it only makes you look like the loser Kerry is.

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