Day 3: S. Korean Taken Hostage

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 8:43 am on Wednesday, June 23, 2004

TOP URGENT: Kim executed. Body found.

SICK STATISTIC: I’ve had over 1,100 hits since Kim’s body was found, and over 90% of those hits are from searches for “Kim Sun Il beading video” or some varation of that theme. The world is full of ghouls.

LATEST: Koreans reportedly threatening to burn down the mosque in Seoul and kill muslims in Korea.

The following are links to the story and its aftermath (Updates will continue throughout the day):

Of course, television and newspaper photographers wer hanging like vultures around Kims family to capture the horror and grief when the death was announced.

50 lawmakers from various parties have submitted a resolution to cancel the dispatch of Korean troops to Iraq.
Lawmakers are quoted as saying: “Even though I am burning with anger at the death of an innocent civilian, we must halt the dispatch of our soldiers in order to cut the vicious circle of terrorism that we have seen in the example of Kim’s case,” and “We have to rethink the current situation because an innocent Korean man has been killed,” and this strange statement “If the aim of the terrorism is to split public opinion, we should not be dragged into it.”

Kim’s headless body was found booby-trapped with explosives. According to this story, a coalition official said, “The man had been beheaded, and the head was recovered with the body.” Pentagon sources said the body had been booby-trapped with explosives. This is not being reported in the Korean news. Koreans need to know what sick, sick, freaks these terrorists are.

Kim likely kidnapped MORE THAN THREE WEEKS AGO on May 30, not June 17. Kim’s employer gives highly contradictory statements.

President Roh apologizes to the nation for Kim’s murder. Roh said, “I am very sorry and deeply regretful that this tragedy happened, although all the people and the government wished and prayed for the safe return of Mr. Kim Sun-il.”

Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon apologized to the nation Wednesday for failing to bring Kim safely back home. Ban said, “Despite all available diplomatic efforts to save him, the grisly killing happened. I will make all-out efforts to ensure the safety of Koreans in Iraq to prevent the recurrence of a similar incident.”

Korean police step up security at US and British Embassies.

Kim executed immediately after government rejected demand to withdraw troops.

Kim’s body found on roadside. US says Kim was beheaded and thrown from a vehicle. South Korea silent on beheading.

Kims’ death came as a surprise as it was “partially” confirmed that he was alive by South Korean officials and local media outlets on Tuesday. Moments before the beheading, Choi Seung-kap, president of New Korea Total Service had said, “Kim is now detained at an unidentified place in Iraq. My Iraqi business partner is negotiating his release.” Nothing Choi has said has been confirmed by anyone publicly. It is unknown what, if anything he had been doing. It is not known how or why he was doing it.

The terrorists made it clear that they did not believe the statements from South Korean citizens that they only wanted to help Iraq and were against the US too. Seconds before the beheading, which wasn’t shown one terrorist shouted, “This is what your hands have committed. Your army has not come here for the sake of Iraqis, but for cursed America.”

President Roh will address the nation at 9:30 am local time. He is expected to send his condolences to the family of Mr. Kim and talk about security issues.

The Korean National Security Council strongly condemns the murder of Kim and reafirms its “basic spirit and position” regarding sending troops to Iraq.

Korean government criticised for lacking diplomatic tactics and bargaining skills.

President Bush expresses his condolences and calls the terrorists “barbaric”. He condemned the terrorists by saying, “The free world cannot be intimidated by the brutal actions of these barbaric people.”

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Comment by Plunge

23 June 2004 @ 10:09 am

These people are right. President Roh said the wrong thing to the terrorists. What he should have said is, “Did I say 3000 troops? I meant 6000 troops. The original 3000 and 3000 more special forces to hunt your asses down. Kill another Korean? We’ll tack on another 3000, and on and on…”

These people are deluding themselves if they think that Iraqis feel any kinship for them, especially those bastards that are kidnapping and beheading folks. They don’t care what you think. They don’t care about you. They don’t care that you hate the US. They don’t care that you think the Americans are a bunch of warmongers. They will kill you.

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23 June 2004 @ 11:32 am

Sad.

The Korean hostage, Kim Seon-il, was found dead on a roadside in Iraq. I send my condolences and sorrow to his family. It’s a tragedy. One that keeps replaying itself over and over again. More news relating to this and…

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Comment by Big Al

23 June 2004 @ 11:34 am

It’ll be interesting to see how the Korean military will deal with Iraq once they’re in the mix over there. If the terrorist wanted to get the Koreans attention I think they succeeded in spades! That is as long as the (what do they call themselves–the 386 generation?)liberal left doesn’t get the country to pull a Spain. I know the point is moot but I think using tracking biochips such as the “Digital Angel” chip would solve the kidnapping problem.

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Comment by Jerry Fisher

23 June 2004 @ 12:11 pm

I think I agree with Plunge. I was thinking along these lines earlier. Roh should send more troops to spite these assholes… combat troops to hunt them down. They have shown themselves to be nothing but bloodthirsty murderers.
I don’t know how I quite feel about the war; whether it was just or not; or what the real reasons for it was. And I doubt I’ll ever know how many innocent Iraqis were murdered. But regardless… murdering an innocent man begging for his life is not the way.
Also, Jeff, I noticed you likened the press to vultures for taking pictures of the grieving family yet still post them on your blog. They are powerful pictures.
Great blog by the way.

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23 June 2004 @ 12:37 pm

Special Asia by Blog

Given the beheading of Kim Sun Il in Iraq I thought it appropriate to collate some more good links with details of the aftermath. Ruminations in Korea has been leading the way with some great links and some appalling stats at the same time. Marmot also…

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Comment by Jim

23 June 2004 @ 12:40 pm

Right on, Plunge. That’s what I said on my blog. Double it. Let the extra troops hunt the vermin that did this. The koreans will know how to deal with these vile savages.

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Comment by Fatmarley

23 June 2004 @ 2:03 pm

Does anyone know where they are getting the orange jumpsuits? It was the same still Nick Berg had and it is also the same used at Guantanamo Bay.

Have you read the conspiracy theories about the beheadins yet?

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Comment by Scott-in-Japan

23 June 2004 @ 2:09 pm

The company isn’t giving a straight story?! Ouch! At least Ross Perot had the balls to get his employees out (via privately hired mercenaries) when they were kidnapped.

Didn’t Russia have kindapping problems in the days of Beirut, and the infamous US hostage situation in Iran? They did, until they opened a huge can of retaliation on the bad guys and started killing the bad guys. And the bad guys learned the hard way that they were out-manned. Ever since…not a lot of kidnapping or hostage problems for the Russians. (Afghanistan excluded, and Muslims from Bosnia are a different, newer group)

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23 June 2004 @ 3:09 pm

South Korean beheaded

Sadly, it appears that Kim Sun-il has been beheaded by terrorists in Iraq. I will try to update you as news comes in. I will also be translating for the Chosun. My deepest sympathies go out to Kim’s family. UP

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23 June 2004 @ 3:43 pm

South Korean beheaded

Sadly, it appears that Kim Sun-il has been beheaded by terrorists in Iraq. I will try to update you as news comes in. I will also be translating for the Chosun. My deepest sympathies go out to Kim’s family. UP

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23 June 2004 @ 3:43 pm

South Korean Citizen Kim Sun-il Beheaded

Another one. I called it right in my other entry, this is going to go on and on and on. Worse yet, Kim’s body was booby-trapped. As if murdering this man wasn’t enough. As if beheading him wasn’t enough. The savages also tried to take out whoever f…

Comment by Sugar Shin

23 June 2004 @ 5:46 pm

Ever since…not a lot of kidnapping or hostage problems for the Russians. Scott-in-Japan

Don’t you follow the news? The Russians have a big problem with radicalized Chechnyan guerrillas, who had killed yesterday over 50 security forces in Inguschetia, a Russian province. The Moscow bombings of two flats and the hostage taking by Chechnyan militants and the catastrophical rescue operation in a musical theatre through an amateurishly executed nerve gas operation by Russian special forces. Every day Russian soldiers are abducted or killed in a crucial way in Grosny and outskirts, although the Russian armed forces had already bombed and raided for years whole cities and villages in Chechnya, without mercy for the civilian population. The Russians are in a self-created quagmire with their failed Chechnya policy.

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23 June 2004 @ 5:54 pm

South Korean beheaded

NOTE: Updates continue at the bottom of the page — scroll down. And no, you won’t find video footage on this site. I don’t deal in that kind of stuff. Sadly, it appears that Kim Sun-il has been beheaded by

Comment by barbarian

23 June 2004 @ 8:42 pm

“I don’t know how I quite feel about the war; whether it was just or not; or what the real reasons for it was. And I doubt I’ll ever know how many innocent Iraqis were murdered. But regardless… murdering an innocent man begging for his life is not the way.”

You don’t even know how you feel about the war that your country has been leading, but still justify the war by postponing your judgement on it and and turnning blind eye to its obvious victims. Then, despite all the juvenile self-contradictions, you went ahead and proclaimed a profound conclusion that “murdering an innocent man begging for his life is not the way”.

Really? Is it not the way?
Is there a diferrence in beheading a man with a knife and blowing up thousand people in pieces? Do you somehow think that the former lacks humane and civilized touch? Or are you just trying to repeat that golden nonsense that Rumsfeld and so many Americans said about the abuses Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo: it’s not American way to do things?
Are Koreans “deluding themselves by expecting kinships from Iraqis”? Because “they don’t care” about other human beings? How about the one who defends one’s own violence while condeming the other, the one who refuses to accept and take responsibilities on the atrocities committed by his fellow folks while hiding behind nothing but a self-delusional slogan-”it’s just not our way”?
I ask you: Those Iraqis who died in recent raids by Americans, is their death ‘in’ your way of doing things, or just your way to do things? How come the destruction caused by your actions are always the unfortunate byproducts of your otherwise supreme way of doing things?

Before you egg Koreans on to go to Iraq and take a revenge on the murderers, why don’t you first make sure how you feel about the war, count dead Iraqis, count dead Americans, look at how American way of doing things are really conducted, then gather your thoughts on whether the war is just or not and whether there is any innocent people among us except the dead?; thus, set your own moral and intellectual boundary clear before you embark on holly trail of the mercenary recruits?

When you came to conclusion that the war is just and sending some more there is part of the solution to end the war you are part of it, enlist yourself first (you might as well be already) and please show us how you are anything different from the “savages”.

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23 June 2004 @ 11:41 pm

South Korean Hostage Beheaded

Kim Sun-il, 33, was beheaded by al-Qaeda-linked kidnappers, a group identifying itself as Jamaat al-Tawhid and Jihad. The body of the South Korean translator was found on the road between Baghdad and Falluja.

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24 June 2004 @ 12:21 am

The Beheading

Please don’t ask me about it… the country is OBSESSED with it - something finally managed to get last week’s rotten dumpling scandal off the front page. But since I’m using to having my countrymen beheaded in strange middle eastern

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24 June 2004 @ 12:22 am

The Beheading

Please don’t ask me about it… the country is OBSESSED with it - something finally managed to get last week’s rotten dumpling scandal off the front page. But since I’m using to having my countrymen beheaded in strange middle eastern

Comment by Zdunk

24 June 2004 @ 1:26 am

Sugar Shin has got it right…I have been trying to follow the Chechen situation for over two years, and it is definitely a thorn in Russia’s side. Despite a military “free hand”, the Chechen insurgency just won’t seem to go away.

The big difference in Chechneya: It doesn’t get reported. I have dug up 3rd hand reports of horrific Russian army tactics, and of course the Chechen fighters are a nasty piece of work too, but….it is damn hard to read about it. Journalists are not allowed in, and early on in the conflict, about 11 were mysteriously “shot” (not at the same time). The warning was out…try to report Russian atrocities, and get put against the wall.

The “butt pyramids” in Abu Ghairab are child’s play compared to the stories drifting out of Chechneya.

I am not giving my judgement here on the two cases. The interesting point to me is how in our age the manipulation of images is everything. If a news service can’t come up with pictures, there simply is no story. Abu Ghairab compared to Chechnya is a proof of this, I think.

Are we (the world) hopelessly ignorant, dark age pagan grunts playing with tech gadgets (thus fancying ourselves ‘advanced’)? Do we flock to beheading sites the way peasants flocked to public executions, drunk and guffawing, a few hundred years ago? Are we simply unable to care about injustices that have plenty of textual evidence, but no visuals?

“Who is more the fool, the fool or the fool who follows the fool?”

- Who is more the savage, the beheader or the hordes of the world panting, desperately searching to watch beheading on the internet? Really?

Comment by Dan Mehlhorn

24 June 2004 @ 4:53 am

Barbarian,

The war is just. Just don’t get between my rifle and terrorists. I may not think you are anything but a target.

Comment by Scott-in-Japan

24 June 2004 @ 5:51 am

Dan M. - Right on!

Sugar Shin -
“Don’t you follow the news? The Russians have a big problem with radicalized Chechnyan guerrillas”
The current Russian regime has definitely lost it’s touch (see my comment about the Bosnians). The Soviet Empire was a Bad Thing™, but they had a handle on bad guys from the Middle East.

Zdunk -
“Who is more the savage, the beheader or the hordes of the world panting, desperately searching to watch beheading on the internet? ”
The beheaders are more savage. The folks wanting to see it may be getting their first glimpse at the monsters trying to kill them. For those of you who didn’t have the privilege of seeing your own countrymen leap to their death from a burning Trade Center Tower - welcome to the club. The terrorists want to kill you, too. They just haven’t gotten to you yet.
Seeing buildings collapse is scary, but not tremendously so. Seeing people leap to their death, rather than burn inside a building, is more personal. Watching someone have their head cut off by some terrorists - that’s real motivation to bring justice to the world.
The terrorists are finally getting widespread press for the monsters that they are. They aren’t ‘freedom fighters’, or ‘minutemen’ or any other baloney along those lines. They are monsters and must be destroyed.
The next time you see an Abu G prison photo, take a look at some of the folks dead from the WTC attack. Compare and contrast. It’s time for judgement, and the two are not equivalent.

Comment by barbarian

24 June 2004 @ 5:52 am

Dan,

Is it? Just remember to say oops, then, that will do the justice.

Comment by Paul H.

24 June 2004 @ 9:02 am

Barbarian:
If you don’t see any moral difference between the Coalition vs the Iraq of (first) Saddam Hussein and (now) the violent anti-coalition forces, then there is little more to be said.

If the people of the distant future were to dig us up a hundred years from now, there’d be little way for anyone to tell the good ones from the evil ones, as we’ll all be in pieces, “B”. But I for one don’t have any problem with telling the two sides apart in this war. “By their fruits shall you know them…” (somewhere in the New Testament).

When you tally up the count of this particular “fruit”, B, just don’t conveniently forget the totality of the “fruit” (dead bodies) stacked up by the other side.

As far as the familiar “chickenhawk” argument goes, I wouldn’t presume of asking a similar question of one who feels so vastly superior in morality to we knuckle-dragging, bomb-throwing Americans.

But I do think you should tell us where you are blogging from, and what nationality and age you are.

If you’re not in the thick of the fight against evil somewhere in the world yourself, I’d like to be able to congratulate on your own position of personal security and safety, and then review the history of that place (to see to whom that current security is owed). It’s such a vastly moral superior place you inhabit, compared to the one we pro-war Americans occupy, that it deserves to be highlighted for all here to know.

You ought to change your handle, too, and reserve it for hurling at Americans like me, unless it is meant in a ironic way (like a fat man taking pleasure in the nickname “slim”…)

Comment by Jae

24 June 2004 @ 10:08 am

SIGH…ERRRR…HMMMMM…UMMMMMM…EHM.

Comment by Pat Spacek

24 June 2004 @ 10:35 am

The Americans poked a hornet’s nest with a stick (and it was the *wrong* goddamn hornet’s nest, as everyone by now knows!), and act all shocked when hornets start stinging people. Sure, the hornet are bad. Sure, the hornets should be destroyed. But for god’s sake, when is the American Collective Mind going to learn? There are *still* people running around insisting that the U.S. shares absolutely no responsibility for hostages getting beheaded. A far better defense would be to argue that it’s all somehow worth it, which is intellectually defensible but opens up a nasty can of worms (ie, how much global instability is justifiable to achieve geo-political goals?). Better to just get angry about savage terrorists, as though Koreans were getting beheaded before the invasion of Iraq.
(Or, to put it another way, “The war is just. Just don’t get between my rifle and terrorists. I may not think you are anything but a target.” Thank you, Dirty Harry.)

Comment by Scott-in-Japan

24 June 2004 @ 10:53 am

“The Americans poked a hornet’s nest with a stick”
You need to clarify which nest. And when. Because the hornets hated the West before Columbus went to America. The US is one of the few in the world working to make the situation better.

Comment by pat spacek

24 June 2004 @ 12:05 pm

“You need to clarify which nest. And when. Because the hornets hated the West before Columbus went to America. The US is one of the few in the world working to make the situation better.”

What on earth does that even mean? Are you talking about Iraq? Moslems? The Middle East? And how is the US “working to make the situation better”? By supporting Israel no matter what it does? By supporting secular dictatorships (Iraq, anyone?) simply because they happen to be enemies of religious dictatorships, then turning around and bombing them into the stone age when someone *else* attacks New York? By trampling over the Middle East like a rabid elephant for reasons that are part self-serving (oil, geopolitical influence) and part insanely ideological (We Will Re-Shape the Middle East), all the while lying to its own people as to why all of this is being done (WMD!)? My god, Scott, in your blanket ignorance of the Islamic world, and in your complete inability to honestly evaluate what the Americans are doing, have done, and will no doubt continue to do in the region, you could be a poster boy for American Middle East policy. Well done!

(BTW, anyone who either says that I’m not condemning the people who decapitated that Korean guy is an idiot. Anyone who compares anything happening in the Middle East to World War II is an idiot. Anyone who says that Iraq’s connection to al Quaeda was anything more than last minute, headline-grabbing desperation is an idiot. Anyone who tries to strengthen their assertion that the American invasion was justified — a supportable position — with the assertion that America did no wrong and cannot be held responsible for anything bad that happened there — an unsupportable position — is an idiot. And anyone who says that Iraqi prisoner abuses in American jails doesn’t look so bad when compared to the decapitations is an idiot. I may be anti-War, but I’m willing to talk rationally about the issue with people who aren’t.)

Comment by pat spacek

24 June 2004 @ 12:11 pm

Ah…obviously, I typed that too fast. Ignore the grammatical weirdness.

Comment by Sugar Shin

24 June 2004 @ 6:01 pm

Scott-in-Japan,

Ever since…not a lot of kidnapping or hostage problems for the Russians. (Afghanistan excluded, and Muslims from Bosnia are a different, newer group)

The current Russian regime has definitely lost it’s touch (see my comment about the Bosnians).

I don’t know, what Bosnian muslims have anything to do with hostage taking of Russians or the Russian Caucasian region. Bosnia Herzegovina was a province of the former Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia and after the Balkan Wars now an UN administered independent Republic with a mutli-ethnic domestic government along the ethnicities of Serbs, Croats and Bosniac muslims. What the heck have they to do with Russias problems with radical (islamic) independence movements in the Caucasian region like Chechnya, Inguschetia and Dagestan and with groups in the Republic of Georgia. A look on the world map of a National Geographic Atlas could help a little.

Yes, many gruesome muslim “mujaheedin” fighters from the Middle East participated in Bosnian War between Bosniac muslims, Serbs and Croats - but where should be the connection to Russia or Chechnya??? Many mujaheedin groups or mercenaries are also operating in Chechnya, but your stand-alone reference to “Bosnia” in your comments made no sense.

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24 June 2004 @ 7:28 pm

Video of South Korean Kim Sun-il Beheading Released

The rest of the Kim Sun-il hostage video, the part showing his execution that Al-Jazeera earlier refused to release, has appeared online. So far I haven’t heard any news about where or how the rest of the video was released. From Interested Participant…

Comment by Paul H.

24 June 2004 @ 9:20 pm

Pat Spacek: Since you are obsessed with idiots, try looking up the Leninist definition of “useful idiot”. The connection isn’t an idle one, as Saddam Hussein is prominent amongst those of us idiots who took enough interest in his bio to know about his detailed study and expertise on all the details of Stalin’s career. Stalin was his role model (not Hitler as Bush 41 implied in a speech).

The time for you anti-war types to stop this war was in 90, after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. The US had no defense treaty or understanding of any sort with Kuwait, but aside from that the Kuwaitis were a classic case of “arrogant ally” — one who is anxious to posture anti-US sentiment for the applause of the world crowd, until the time comes when the US is needed. Then, staring into the face of doom, they beckon frantically for our help, like CPT Ahab lashed to Moby Dick.

Frankly, if it had been up to me I would have left them to their fate, but once we decided to intervene, and then stopped before finishing the job, this second Gulf war became inevitable and needed to be finished regardless of the various political justifications. I think Bush 41, realizing his error, would have done it a lot sooner in a hypothetical second term, but thanks to Ross Perot we got “Prince Hamlet” for Prez, who was more interested in dallying with the household help than finishing the job. If we’d done GW II several years ago instead of random bombing and sanctions, by now we’d be several years down the road and a lot more Iraqis would still be alive, regardless of whether or not a democracy succeeds there.

We had been at war with Iraq for 12 years, and it needed to be finished one way or another, either by signing a formal peace treaty with Saddam or by finishing him. This was inevitable no matter who occupied the White House; I doubt if a President Gore would have had any more political courage than his predecessor, to either sign a peace treaty with, or invade and finish, Saddam.

If you think the US should have signed a peace treaty with Saddam, in preference to GW II, then show some political courage here to match your ranting obsession with blasting “pro-war idiots”, and say so. But don’t try to convince me that continuation of the status quo was acceptable as a “humanitarian” preference to war.

Comment by skeeter

25 June 2004 @ 7:55 am

I say Bush was wrong from the beginning for entering us into his personal vendetta with Sadam, but we’re in it so deal with it. The score is 3-0, three heads to none. Its time to fight violence with violence.Its time to stop being a bunch of pacifist pussies,this is war.It has spread to this country while our government agencies designed to protect us were sleeping at their desks.They need to deal with 9/11. It was their fault that happend as well. Get real, get professional and get even and stop losing this war with bullshit idealazations in your safe little world here.It won’t stay safe with anti war protest and doging the truth. Any simpleton would know that.

Comment by hing

25 June 2004 @ 11:28 am

When you push a Dog to the corner, what do you expect? it Bites!
The be-heading starded, after Irag woman were raped in prison, and became pregant with a child. Some went home, and were killed by their family. Others had no place to turn, so committed suicide.Trust me, there will be strong Karma,if you got away with with murder this time.
Second! Seeing someone on their way to Die,”Able To Save,yet Not Save ? You are Just as guilty, as the person who has killed this man!” So Korean leaders Talk Tough To your Countryman. You Are Just As Guilty! Karma will come to you all, who did not come to help, when the time was called for.A true leader would go against all odds, and save this single citizen. Let it be their children in Mr kims place.See how tough they stand.Later these leaders place flowers in front of Kims School photos,what false actors!! They are killers!Just as guilty as they had chop-off the head themselfs. Watch their Karmas in this life.Mark My Words.
Even two thousand years ago a great sage in Asia has said the golden words” Citizen is valuable! Emperor is the least”.So you leaders in Korea, and America,seeing a country man going to die in horror, able to help,stand by and talk tough….You are the true killers, and your karma is coming.

Comment by Scott-in-Japan

25 June 2004 @ 12:37 pm

Sugar Shin - “I don’t know, what Bosnian muslims have anything to do with hostage taking of Russians”

You’re right, they aren’t kidnapping, but the Bosnians/Serbians are giving the Russians a lot resistance that the Soviet Union (in its heyday) didn’t have much problem with.

Comment by Tweety5471

27 June 2004 @ 9:39 pm

President bush states, “The free world can not be intimidated by the brutal actions of these barbaric people” When did he make that statement? while he was golfing or on vacation? what is wrong with our president? I wonder if he would feel the same way if it were one of his family members. As the news came forward about the Koreans beheading it was shown in other countrys that they wanted the U.S to leave. We should leave, we can’t save the world. We should be focusing on our own world (the united states). I can find a lot of places that need re-building. People that are homeless and suffering from hunger and poverty. Our “free” world as president bush states is not going to be so free if our govenment continues the way they are going. Since 9-11 it has got so much worse, we went to war and so many innocent people are dieing. This should not be a free world. It should be a world for americans only. When I say world, I mean the United States. We should be focusing what is going on in our own country and the hell with the rest of the countries. All these bombings, killings and destruction are soon going to be right in our own back yards have we continue to save the entire world. If I had authority to do so, I would give every american citizen one year to get thier ass back to the U.S. After one year and if you haven’t made it back then you are out. We need to stop the terrorist from entering into the united states. Had we have done so, they certainly would not have been able to take over our planes and use them as bombs to kill thousands of innocent people. The united states should be free to the people who were born an american. We let everyone and I do mean anyone and everyone in our country and those are the people that head right down to the welfare department to get money to live for free while the middle class work thier entire lives and let me tell you this as we have faced this crisis ourselves. My husband worked for over 30 years of his life, we have a nice home, nice cars and live pretty good because we worked for everything we have and own. One day he got hurt on the job and was layed off because of his injury. At one point he had no income coming into our home. we went to the welfare department to apply for assistance and was turned down. Do you know why? first of all, we were the only white people in the building, secondly, I made too much on social security disability. My check didn’t even cover our mortgage. My point is, we tend to help out everyone else instead of the american people. The people who have worked hard most of thier lives. If you are middle class and have worked hard for everything you have, be careful. as soon as you don’t have a job because of a misfortunate accident, you could possibly lose all you have worked your entire life for. and why? because our govenment feels they need to save everyone but our own people. If the government continues the way they are going, we are not going to be a “free” country as president bush describes. we will be facing bombings, terrorist that we house and feed, and eventually our so called “free” country is going to look like some of the poor pathetic countrys we tend to feel so sorry for. If our government feels the need to help others, then help our own country first. Once we have been helped then feel free to help others. Charity begins at home and he U.S. IS OUR HOME. I wished I never brought kids into this world. I have a 17 year old that has been getting mail from the military since he was 13 years old. They even sent him a free carry bag and a t-shirt. Went so far to even call him telling him he could start boot camp this summer. My son is not interested in dieing at a young age. He does not want to join the military. Why do you think they are hounding him? This war is not going to end for a very long time. I am irate to think they are starting to bother young kids to join when these kids need to focus on thier futures and figure out for themselvs who they are and who they want to become WHEN THEY GROW UP. Next time the military calls I have a right mind to tell them he moved. I am so irate to all that is going on in our country. It seems like the president is in cahoots with osama’s family for some reason. It was said that the trade centers disaster was the makings of osama and yet we go after saddam. what is up with that??? I pray for the families of the victems that have died, from the war, the bombings and killings and the beheadings. It will not end with the Korean man Kim, god rest his soul. Now they have three turkish men and it will continue and continue until it brings us down. The president needs to get with the program instead of telling everyone not to worry, go on with your daily living, have a good time and forget as to all that is really going on. when is he going to get real? What has happened and is going to happen will effect everyone. It is going to get worse no doubt about it and did you know that if we were to get hit with a biological chemical attack they are worried about the hospitals even being prepared? Why is that? that is what I mean by helping our people before we help others. If we have the money to deploy thousands of troops, and we have the money to rebuild Irac then why in gods name don’t we have the money to either put in more hospitals or have the facilities to treat the wounded if we were to get hit really hard? does this make sence to anyone? It’s now called “save yourselves”. Have something bad happen and most likely most of us will die or be on our own. Years ago it was said the world will end the year 2000. to some it already has. Our world is coming to an end and slowly but surely we are destroying what we have. This war has to end. Trying to end terrorism is like trying to stop the drugs being passed along. It can’t and won’t be done. For every one hundred hostages we have of theirs, 200 more are born. That is why we can end all of this by not making our country a “free country” to just about everyone. WE don’t need other countries for oil, technology has come so far there are other ways to heat. To make a long story short, this all comes down to money and greed and that in itself is going to destroy all the innocents, all the living, and all god gave us to make this world united. Think about it.

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8 August 2004 @ 9:47 am

Sad.

The Korean hostage, Kim Seon-il, was found dead on a roadside in Iraq. I send my condolences and sorrow to his family. It’s a tragedy. One that keeps replaying itself over and over again. More news relating to this and…

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