Mission Impossible?

Filed under: Uncategorized — Jeff in Korea at 4:49 pm on Wednesday, April 21, 2004

I needed new shoes. Something to wear to work, on my bike, and casually. The answer: Dr. Martens. I went to the Dr. Martens outlet here in Pusan located on the first floor of “Sfunz”(pronounced “spongeeeee” by the natives) in Haeundai (pronounced “High-ooon-die” by the foreigners) and selected the perfect footwear for me. The problem was, my feet are too big. Size 12 (aka 300mm Korean and 11 English). They had one size smaller, but they were too narrow at the end. The clerk insisted that they would stretch. I disagreed that steel toed footwear would stretch very much. He agreed to order the proper size from Seoul and told me the would come on Tuesday.

Predictably, Tuesday came and went with no shoes. I called at lunchtime today and asked what was going on. After sorting through the numerous apologies, the store employee informed me that my shoes had been sent to the wrong address and maybe I could have them on Thursday.

I responded that while it was, indeed, a sad development, I had been expecting the shoes on Tuesday and could even have understood getting them today, but Thursday was unacceptable. I asked if there was any way I could get them today… The reply? “Impossible.”

“Impossible”?

“Impossible,” came the confirmation.

I pressed. “There isn’t any way to get them today?”

“No. Impossible.”

“It wasn’t impossible to deliver them to deliver them to the wrong address, but it is impossible to quickly correct the mistake,” I queried in an overly annoyed tone.

“Yes. It is difficult,” the store employee insisted.

Being the pigheaded foreigner I am, I broke all rules of polite social discourse and asked, “Is it really impossible, or it’s just difficult and you don’t want to deal with it?”

” ,” the clerk replied silently.

“Well, what can you do for me? I payed KRW 120,000 for these shoes with the understanding that they would be delivered yesterday. I don’t want to wait another day. This isn’t acceptable. Can’t you give them to a ‘quick service’ (a motorcycle messenger)?”

“Let me call you back,” the clerk said in a rather sheepishly.

4 hours later, my mobile phone rang. It was the clerk.

“Are you in your office, Mr. Harrison?”

“Yes.”

“I will be right there.”

30 minutes later, my secretary walks in and says that there is a shoe guy here for me. I greet him warmly. He removes his baseball cap and bows about 500 times apologizing profusely. I perform my social dance by apologizing for being so demanding and causing him the trouble of having to come all of the way to my office from the other side of the city.

The conclusion?

Proof that in Korea “impossible” things are seldom ever really impossible. “Impossible” usually means that something is inconvenient, somebody else’s department, or simply not something the person wants to be bothered with.

However, having my boots hand-delivered to my office by a store employee would simply not happen in the US. Korea is very good to foreigners in that way. We get a lot of special treatment that other Koreans would never in a million years get and that Americans would never extend to each other. Had I insisted on this in America, the clerk would not have said that it was “impossible,” he/she would have most likely told me in a rather impolite manner to go intercourse myself.

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Comment by Scott-in-Japan

21 April 2004 @ 5:08 pm

So in the end, what tipped the scales in favor of you getting the shoes delivered? Being a foreigner? Embarrassing the guy by being blunt? Hinting at being really pissed off? Or offering the guy a (sort of) easy way out (with a bike messenger)?

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 April 2004 @ 5:13 pm

I think it was a combination of the first three: foreigner, embarrassment, being pissed. I don’t think the easy way out had anything to do with it because he didn’t used the messenger, he personally delivered the shoes.

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Comment by stavrosthewonderchicken

21 April 2004 @ 5:41 pm

Neat. Exactly the sort of ‘I’m not Korean and so I expect to be treated better than anyone else’ stuff that makes life for the rest of us here that much harder (because the clerk/driver/waitress remembers what a demanding pain-in-the-butt the last waeguk-in was).

Thanks, buddy! Keep fighting the good fight!

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Comment by stavrosthewonderchicken

21 April 2004 @ 5:45 pm

OK, that was a little overly sarcastic. Cranky bastard, ain’t I?

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Comment by Blinger

21 April 2004 @ 6:01 pm

It must be nice to have the Korean skills to do that over the phone. I could have maybe done it in person and breaking so many social rules that I would end up looking like the big-nosed barbarian that I no doubt am.

Power to you.

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Comment by Silly Sally

21 April 2004 @ 6:02 pm

Jeff,

Nice booties! Do you wear a fanny pack also?

Yes, foreigners get some preferential treatment and that is why some foreigners find it hard to go back home: it hurts somehow to blend-in and become another normal-working serf.

The “White Man Who Would Be King” syndrome.

I hang in professional circles with many attorney and barrister friends. They tell me, however, spending anytime as a foreign attorney in Korea is professional suicide: the jobs are sinecure positions providing little hard-core experience. Once a lawyer spends anytime over in Korea working for a Korean law firm — they become un-marketable in the states or England.

Do you feel you have frittered away your career sitting with your booties up on a desk in Korea?

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 April 2004 @ 7:19 pm

Stavros,

There was none of the “I’m not Korean and so I expect to be treated better than anyone else”. I didn’t expect it at all. There was never any yelling or loud talking or ranting. I never demanded that I receive the shoes today, and I certainly never suggested that he bring them to my office personally. I simply helped him explore various options and let him reach his own conclusions.

I asked several times if there was any way. He couldn’t see any. I suggested that he wasn’t trying hard enough because there were viable options. I also reminded him that he said they would be here Tuesday, and I expect people to follow through. I even suggest that he call a motorcycle messenger. I forgot to mention that I told him I would pay for the messenger so I could get the shoes today.

He came to the conclusion himself that there was, in fact, a way to do it. And, for some reason that I likely will never understand, he reached the conclusion that he should bring them here personally.

I was never demanding and was even very apologetic when I found out he delivered them himself.

I do not think there is anything wrong with expecting people to keep their word and to fix their mistakes in the quickest possible manner.

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 April 2004 @ 7:34 pm

Silly,

I don’t know if you are a Korean speaker or not, but I noticed that the more Korean I learned, the worse I was treated. There was a direct correlation between me acting and speaking like a native and the decline in getting the benefits of being a foreigner. Now I am in Korean limbo. I don’t get the benefits of being a clueless white guy and I don’t get the benefits of being Korean. I do, however, seem to get all of the disadvantages of being a foreigner and the disadvantages of being as Korean as the Koreans will let me be. So, I take benefits wherever I can get them without burning too many bridges.

Actually a very good question about frittering away careers. There is a big difference between lawyering in Seoul and laywering here in Pusan. I am actually in a situation where my job is so secure that I would be affraid to go back to a firm in the US with all the pressures of billable hours and probationary periods, and office politics. If/when I go back, I would/will set up my own shop.

I don’t think lawyers become unmarketable. I think their marketability becomes more limited overall, but vastly more marketable in certain areas of practice.

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Comment by Brendon Carr

21 April 2004 @ 9:13 pm

Silly Sally, within the parameters of whether the particular lawyer intends to rejoin a U.S. or London law factory as one of the replaceable cogs, a tenure of more than three years in Korea would seem to be fatal to the “career prospects” of the foreign lawyer. But there are larger philosophical questions — what defines a career?

You seem to like philosophy. Give us your thoughts.

Additionally, and I think Jeff would second this, not all the roles for foreign lawyers in Korean law firms are necessarily “boy scrivener” roles.

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

21 April 2004 @ 9:32 pm

Brendon,

As you know, I do agree with your statement that not all the foles for foreign lawyers in Korean law firms are necessarily “boy scrivener” roles. That having been said, all of the foreign lawyers start out, and justifiably so, in the role of a breathing, white/black/yellow, round-eyed dictaphones, but a great many of them (most?) either allow themselves to become trapped in that role or chose not to expand or explore new roles.

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Comment by Scott-in-Japan

21 April 2004 @ 10:27 pm

Jeff - Pardon the broad (and sort of off-topic) question.

What would be your recommendation for someone now looking to work in Korea in a non-English Teaching job?
- Go teach english until you know enough Korean to function in a Korean office?
- Or land a Korean job from abroad?

I’m curious what your thoughts are.

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Comment by Silly Sally

22 April 2004 @ 5:15 pm

Jeff and Brendon,

Yes, it’s true a successful career doesn’t require repatriation to the anglo-saxon system, and converting back into a well-dressed working serf.

As a trade-off, your sinecure positions probably offer intangible benefits — such as free-time and no stress.

Just beware of the “eccentric factor”: being marginalized in society allows an uncalibrated drifting that finds oneself wearing hanbok clothing or buying goofy-boots and feeling good about it.

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Comment by ramblas

22 April 2004 @ 6:19 pm

hahaha!

i guess it’s just subtle language barrier.
i mean we,korean used to learn difficult form but not the proper convenient way.

once foreign couple were trying to get their cash from bank machine and it was out of order and they didn’t understand korean language so asked me if it was working.
then i answered “that’s impossible…”
if they ask me now, i probably say “No, it’s not working now…”

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Comment by Doesntmatter

23 April 2004 @ 7:04 pm

Jeff,

So basically we have a community of expats that need their egos stroked by living amongst people who provide service levels that isn’t available in the states. It must be nice leaving a place where you’re just another white guy.

Enjoy the DOCs

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

23 April 2004 @ 7:39 pm

“Doesn’t Matter,”

First of all, I notice that virutally every time someone posts something completely stupid and ignorant, they do so anonymously by giving bogus names and email addresses to prevent any sort of private two-way communication.

Next, as for your statement “basically we have a community of expats that need their egos stroked by living amongst people who provide service levels that isn’t available in the states,” If you have never been to Korea, then this makes you completely ignorant and unqualifed to make such comments. On the other hand, if you have ever been to Korea for more than 1 day, and make such comments, then your levels of sheer stupidity and idiocy make you nearly unqualified to participate in the human experience.

Who said anything about needing an ego stroked? Any foreigner looking to have his ego stroked should steer well clear of Korea. The fact that I was able to get my shoes delivered only a day late rather than the two or three days inisted upon by thhe clerk, was obviously such a big deal that I felt compelled to write about it. When I reference foreigners getting treated better than other Koreans in a lot of ways, I was referring to such earth-shattering things as getting an extra dumpling with your order, not being charged $0.02 for a plastic shopping bag, being given a little extra discount on a pair of socks from the open-air market, and other such minor good-will gestures that are afforded to some guests in this country.

Once you get down to actually living here, you would see that the overall level of service afforded to foreigners is much worse that the level of service Koreans give to each other, which isn’t very good to begin with. The idea of “customer service” is very new and virtually non-existant in Korea. When you throw a foreigner into the mix, you get complete meltdown in most cases.

If you think that it is a big stroking of my ego to have to work to convice a store clerk to put my shoes, that are one day late and sitting on his desk, on the back of a motorcycle messenger (at my expense nonetheless)to be delivered to me before they are two or three days late, then you are a very screwed up individual.

As for your other point that “it must be nice leaving a place where you’re just another white guy,”…hmmm… let me think…. on the one hand, you have being treated like just another normal average guy. On the other hand, you have being treated like a drug-addicted, AIDS-spreading, third-class citizen monkey who is too primitive to eat any foods except bread, meat, and milk, and too far down the evolutionary scale to communicate in “the most scientific language” or use chopsticks. Well, hell…I don’t know….which would I prefer?

So, “doesn’t matter,” go back to your shallow end of the gene pool and lock yourself back in the dark recesses of your useless, scat-filled brain and continue your self-fellation.

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

23 April 2004 @ 7:49 pm

And another thing, all of you cheerleading apologist imbeciles, I find it very interesting to note that 100% of the Koreans who have commented on this agree with me and it is only foreigners who seem to have a problem with anything. It seems to me that Koreans know they are treated like crap by other Koreans and don’t like it. It’s like Chris Rock said, “Who’s more racist? Black people or White people? Black people! Because they hate black people too!” Change “Black” to “Korean” and you get the idea.

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Comment by Joel

23 April 2004 @ 9:56 pm

Let him have it Jeff. Yeah I was going to comment that it’s not always advantagious being a foreigner. Taxi drivers have been known to give me the “foreigner discount.” You should see the look on their faces when I explain what the quicker route would have been and hand them the fare that it normally comes out to be instead of the newly inflated fare from driving in circles or going the wrong way.

I liked the Docs too. I hate buying shoes in Korea because they never fit and in order to get the quick sell they tell you they will. I wonder if you can order Docs off Daum… I’m off to check.

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Comment by Jeff in Korea

23 April 2004 @ 10:53 pm

Joel,

If you can’t find anything on Daum, let me know. I can go back to this guy here Pusan and maybe, with a little bit of my Cache Valley charm, I can convince him to personally deliver a pair to you.

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Comment by Joel

24 April 2004 @ 12:58 am

It might take more charm than it’s worth. It would probably take the poor guy all day to get here and back, but I am willing to try. That way I can stroke my ego vicariously through your efforts.

Just kidding, I found some on Daum. I am going to shop around and see what Yahoo and Naver have before I decide.

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Comment by ramblas

24 April 2004 @ 6:48 pm

about living abroad.

i respect Ella mallart,the famous female traveller and after her trip around world she wrote “the world will be our heart”
at first, i didn’t understand and now as i’m travelling more, i get what it means
it means as we experience various places and cultures then our mind is getting more understanding and open then later we live in small place then our mind can still contain that understanding and feeling of various place and can’t be same with the mind before trip.

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3 June 2004 @ 2:57 am

You mean they had sex in the Chosun Dynasty?

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3 June 2004 @ 2:59 am

You mean they had sex in the Chosun Dynasty?

Rows of rice planted in Suseongdong near Sunhang’s house. Here are some rows of rice on the road to Seocheon. If you want to read more about the process check the link on the caption of the pictures two…

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3 June 2004 @ 3:17 am

You mean they had sex in the Chosun Dynasty?

Rows of rice planted in Suseongdong near Sunhang’s house. Here are some rows of rice on the road to Seocheon. If you want to read more about the process check the link on the caption of the pictures two…

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25 August 2004 @ 5:13 pm

You mean they had sex in the Chosun Dynasty?

Rows of rice planted in Suseongdong near Sunhang’s house. Here are some rows of rice on the road to Seocheon. If you want to read more about the process check the link on the caption of the pictures two…

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